Posted on 08/23/2015 8:07:24 PM PDT by markomalley
Filmmaker, evangelist and renowned bible prophecy teacher Joel Richardson says it is a time of change for the church, especially when it comes to teachings about the End Times and the rapture. The author of the New York Times bestseller The Islamic Antichrist recently appeared with Joe Schimmel on Rick Wiless TruNews radio program to discuss the what he believes is the false doctrine of a pre-tribulation rapture.
Wiles himself supports the post-tribulation position, stating, I personally do not believe that by the year 2020, any credible person will be teaching the secret pre-trib rapture doctrine. I think the events that are coming in the next five years will utterly destroy the doctrine.
The pre-tribulation school of thought has been an important force in American Christianity for decades, with proponents such as Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye and Thomas Ice. This school holds believers will be raptured before the great tribulation during the End Times, thus avoiding it. In contrast, Richardson believes the rapture will not occur until during the tribulation period. Thus, believing Christians will not be spared the persecution and calamities of the End Times.
Richardson is featured on a DVD exploring the issue entitled Left Behind or Led Astray? During the film, Richardson explains what he sees as the crucial importance of the issue.
Its one of the premiere pastoral issues of our day. If youre a pastor thats not preparing your people to face potentially the Antichrist and the Great Tribulation, in this hour, simply because your denomination teaches it or whatever, personally I think youre failing in your role as a shepherd and a pastor.
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So you see some of the events of chapter 6 perhaps involved before during and after what is displayed in chapter 19?
I’d be interested in seeing how you would event time line Revelation.
Chapter 19 is a parenthetical overview, so you can’t use it as chronology.
Get a copy of the Chronological Gospels.
It is worked out perfectly there.
So do you believe that the Trinity is found in the word of God?
Plants & animals don't marry because the Supreme Court hasn't heard their case yet, but seriously we were created as higher beings than them.
Now if you have any scriptures that state these things differently, I'd like to hear them.
“The House of Judah are the Jews.”
So does Judah include Benjamin? Simeon? Levi?
Who exactly was James writing to when he opened his letter with:
“James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes in the Dispersion”
I’ve always observed that whenever I gave consideration to mid-trib or post-trib, and especially amil positions, they always were accompanied by a lack or erosion of faith in Christ and His work on the Cross, albeit sometimes slight.
Nevertheless, the pretrib-premil position is consistent with those who remain in faith in Christ in all things.
While the other eschatologies might have strong rational arguments to support their theology, I find myself growing more through faith and remaining along the pre-trib, premil eschatology.
Part of Benjamin, and part of Levi.
The dispersion is the northern tribes. they were who Yeshua was sent to save. (Matthew 15:24) Most of the congregations that the epistles were written to were the dispersion of the House of Israel ( The “Gentiles” as the Pharisees called them, the divorced wife that was to be remarried, creating the “mystery” that Paul declared in Romans 7)
The resurrection of Yeshua’s elect is what ends the trib, the “First Resurrection.”
Many pre-tribbers will end up taking the mark because of that mistaken belief.
As a doctrine, no. As a fact that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit exist, yes.
We are not to declare things in any name but Yeshua.
According to whom? No one knows what the spirit world is like. We have no idea of what physicality is there.
and they are all masculine [...]
According to whom?
so they wouldn't have any need for seed.
Yet they have seed. Seed has purpose.
It's when they assumed human form that they were able to procreate.
According to whom?
(and notice they always assume the male form)
So? When we at war, all our soldiers are male too (at least until recently)... In the perspective of those on the battlefield, they could assume there are no American women... But of course, their assumptions are limited by their perspective.
The book of Mark also records Jesus saying that there is no marriage in Heaven.
And I agree. That does not mean they do not procreate. That means they don't marry...
Angels don't have anyone to marry in Heaven [...]
No, they just don't marry in heaven. That is all it says.
[...] so they have no need for seed [...]
yet they have seed.
or they wouldn't have looked to human females.
Thay didn't HAVE to look for human females - That's the point.
Are you aware that Revelation (as well as Jesus himself) uses symbolism? A literal interpretation is often not appropriate. Jesus was neither a door nor a vine nor, for that matter, a shepherd, yet he described himself as such to make a point. That is also true in John’s Revelation.
So between “Jesus only” or “Jesus Name Doctrine” which would better apply to your doctrine? Either? Both? Or neither?
By the time James wrote, the Jews were also dispersing as a result of persecution. I take the words he used as meant to cover all.
Surely you didn’t mean to say that Jesus was sent to save only the dispersed northern tribes and not the Jews?
I just hope to do whatever God intends for me to do. He has certainly blessed me and my family. I am so grateful to even be alive and able, and I give praise to him for all these blessings.
Just give me some scripture to check out...
Thanks!
The imminency of Christ's return leads to a drive to spread the Gospel, a call to purity in our lives---keep ourselves for His return. Yes I see that.
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