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To: aMorePerfectUnion
“Mary is the mother of “God with us.” “ You will believe whatever your church teaches you, apparently. Your call. We will disagree. God never calls Mary the mother of God. He never makes her into a demigodess - positioned between people and God. He never gives her special powers. If it was true, He would have included it in His Word. He did not. I certainly wish you the best. I just disagree with your private interpretation of Scripture to read into it your pre-existing belief.
    The scripture is clear. Which of the following are you denying ?
  1. Isaiah prophesied the virgin of Israel would bear a son called Immanuel
  2. Jesus was born to Mary
  3. Mary is the virgin of Israel who bore a son named Emmanuel
  4. Immanuel and Emmanuel are equivalent and a form of two Hebrew words that mean "God with us."
  5. Jesus is Immanuel/Emmanuel
  6. The book of Matthew specifically interprets the birth and name of Jesus Christ as the fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecy by Mary bearing the son whose name means "God with us"

416 posted on 08/19/2015 6:07:56 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

The title “Mother of God” is derived from the revelation of scripture.

1. The Trinity: Father, Son, Holy Spirit

2. The Son: The Word of God, in the beginning with God. Identified as Jesus, who said about Himself, “before Abraham was, I Am”.

3. The incarnate Son of God is the 2nd person of the Trinity.

4. Mary was the mother of the incarnate Jesus, the 2nd person of the Trinity.

5. If each person of the Trinity can be addressed as God, then Mary is the mother of God, that is, the incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity. She is not the mother of the Father or of the Holy Spirit, or even of the pre-incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity.


418 posted on 08/19/2015 6:14:34 PM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: af_vet_1981

“Which of the following are you denying ? “

Your false usage of those facts to make them say more than God does in Scripture is what I deny.

I’m certainly not wiser than God. I defer to Him.

I will certainly not fashion dear Mary, though a sinner like me, blessed as she was by God’s choice of her, into an idolic demigoddess.

Now, you can continue to repeat the same thing again, or perhaps pause and ask why you are insistent on making her into more than she was.

In either case, I wish you well.


422 posted on 08/19/2015 6:38:04 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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