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To: af_vet_1981

The title “Mother of God” is derived from the revelation of scripture.

1. The Trinity: Father, Son, Holy Spirit

2. The Son: The Word of God, in the beginning with God. Identified as Jesus, who said about Himself, “before Abraham was, I Am”.

3. The incarnate Son of God is the 2nd person of the Trinity.

4. Mary was the mother of the incarnate Jesus, the 2nd person of the Trinity.

5. If each person of the Trinity can be addressed as God, then Mary is the mother of God, that is, the incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity. She is not the mother of the Father or of the Holy Spirit, or even of the pre-incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity.


418 posted on 08/19/2015 6:14:34 PM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
5. If each person of the Trinity can be addressed as God, then Mary is the mother of God, that is, the incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity. She is not the mother of the Father or of the Holy Spirit, or even of the pre-incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity.

Your point 5 seems to get to the heart of the entire issue. Why insist on calling her the Mother of God if there is so much chance for misinterpretation, particularly when there is no scriptural mandate for us to address her in such a fashion? The term Mother of Jesus captures the same idea without the potential theological baggage.

425 posted on 08/19/2015 6:41:28 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: xzins

Well written


434 posted on 08/19/2015 7:11:00 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: xzins

“5. If each person of the Trinity can be addressed as God, then Mary is the mother of God, that is, the incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity. She is not the mother of the Father or of the Holy Spirit, or even of the pre-incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity.” Well said, Sir. Mary is not the Mother of the Father or the Holy Spirit, or even the pre-incarnate Christ.


451 posted on 08/19/2015 8:23:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: xzins
5. If each person of the Trinity can be addressed as God, then Mary is the mother of God, that is, the incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity. She is not the mother of the Father or of the Holy Spirit, or even of the pre-incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity.

Did the pre-incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity cease to exist (who was not Mary's son) when the incarnate 2nd person of the Trinity showed up???

How did Jesus change from not being the son of Mary to being the son of Mary??? And if he didn't, there must have been another Jesus...

Since before Creation Jesus/God never had a mother...Never needed one...And he stil doesn't...

It's like you guys don't understand why Jesus had to be born of a human woman...It certainly wasn't to have a mother to venerate...Jesus never even called her mother, or mom...He called her woman...

Jesus wasn't born of a woman so he could have a mediator between man and God...That's Jesus' role...Jesus wasn't born of a woman so he would have a mother to be the head of a church....

Mary was the human vessel God used to become a human...That's it...

Jesus had to become a fallen man thru a fallen woman to accomplish his purpose...

452 posted on 08/19/2015 8:36:31 PM PDT by Iscool
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