Posted on 08/15/2015 1:47:29 PM PDT by verga
Most of us who teach in the field of Christian Origins get asked from time to time by students or in public lectures, “Professor, Do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God?”
Scholars are aware of the rich and diverse ways in which the term “Son of God” is used in the Hebrew Bible, in subsequent Jewish literature, and in the New Testament writings themselves, not to mention various non-Jewish texts (including inscriptions and coins) of the Greco-Roman period. Most of us who teach in the field of Christian Origins get asked from time to time by students or in public lectures, “Professor, do you believe Jesus was X.” Sometimes X is “Messiah,” other times it is “Divine,” but in my experience, most often, the question is “Do you believe that Jesus was the Son of God.” In good Socratic fashion one is tempted to reply, “Well what do you mean by the term ‘Son of God,’ and such a counter question is certainly more than subterfuge. Here is a listing of most of the complex ways in which that term is used in the Christian Bible and other related traditions:
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Exactly - read through John in GNT this summer - no one can read John without being convinced that John believed that Jesus was the only begotten Son of God who invaded time and space to redeem humanity
Sounds like mormon doctrine..
Where did you get that idea?
It’s Catholic....
Please read
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-trinity
I once worked with a fellow who taught "World Religions" at the college level. He was a person ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth. He strived to please everyone and agree with all "religions". This man studied the gospels, but was unwilling to receive Christ lest he lose popularity.
God is a jealous God. He will have no God's before Him. If we say we love God, then we will recognize Jesus for who He is.
"In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" - Gospel of John 1:1
OK, so where did the Y chromosome come from?
nope, we are creations of God therefore we inherit none of God's supernatural characteristics....we cannot create, condemn, forgive other than violations against our own personhood....God is infinite, we are not, God is all knowing, we know basically nothing, the list of differences is virtually unending.
Verga, the question is not is Christ the son of God....it is “why would the almighty God, creator of everything, all knowing, able to do anything, in charge of everything because He envisioned and created everything......come to Earth in the person of Jesus Christ, 1/3 of the Godhead itself, become human, allow Himself to suffer an ignominious human death, just to forgive the fall of mankind when He could have done so just by willing it done...........
Are you now telling me that it is Catholic doctrine that Satan and Jesus are brothers?
Best rethink that position if so...
My reply to your post (that was a reply to something that rightly deserved your ???) said nothing about the Trinity either actually or implied.
**Are you now telling me that it is Catholic doctrine that Satan and Jesus are brothers? **
Absolutely not. That is a Mormon belief.
Because...
There was no other way.
Do I believe that Jesus is the Son of God? H##l, yeah!!!
True! How much simpler can it be?
Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the womb of the virgin Mary, as in Luke's Gospel. Jesus taught us to call God our Father, but the rest of us humans were not conceived in the same way as Jesus was when He took upon Himself our human nature.
Ummm..
OK, now go back and check the posts. I said the same back in post #62, which, as I pointed out a reply to your post 42 which, as I also pointed out was a deserved gaggle of question marks concerning that very mormonish doctrine, yet you told me in your post 63 I was wrong, that it was not a mormon doctrine, it was Catholic.
Context is everything and is gained by... reading. ;-)
OK, so where did the Y chromosome come from?
Same place Adam got his Y chromosome.
Hell, no!
thecodont: <[>Same place Adam got his Y chromosome.
Actually, I agree. I believe all his flesh was from the same pure incorruptible flesh batch that God made Adam out of, and breathed the spirit of life into; and that He, Yehovah/Yehoshua/Iesous/Jesus donned it like a garment and was placed in Mary the host mother by the Holy Spirit, by the desire of The Father, agreed on before the foundation of earth and heavens. This negates any need for even the X chromosome from Mary.
Actually, Mary did get her X chromosome from Adam’s X chromosome, impure as it became because of Adam’s sin.
Thank you.
If there is a way to complicate anything, people will do it.
I prefer the simple understanding that if Jesus the Christ said to pray to OUR Father then it means we are our Father’s children, regardless of how we were conceived.
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