Posted on 08/12/2015 7:14:16 AM PDT by Salvation
I’m so glad you got to do that!
I’ve read more about purgatory in the past two weeks than probably most catholics.
Lets change the subject. What about Limbo?
“an article in Jimmy Swaggart’s magazine, The Evangelist, put it, that “Scripture clearly reveals that all the demands of divine justice on the sinner have been completely fulfilled in Jesus Christ. “?????
Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin wilfully after having the knowledge of the truth, there is now left no sacrifice for sins
Matthew 12:36
But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment.
1 Peter 1:16
Because it is written: You shall be holy, for I am holy.
Luke 11:28
But he said: Yea rather, blessed are they who hear the word of God, and keep it.
I pray daily,for the Holy Souls in Purgatory. It is said there are no ungrateful Souls once they are released and in Heaven.They pray for those who helped with their prayers release them.
I know I will have to spend some time there.
Ephesians 1:4
As he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and unspotted in his sight in charity.
Mark 14:38
Watch ye, and pray that you enter not into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Matthew 18:21-22
Then came Peter unto him and said: Lord, how often shall my brother offend against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith to him: I say not to thee, till seven times; but till seventy times seven times.
from the book “Warnings From Beyond”
To the Contemporary Church
[Confessions of Hell]
A literal text of the revelations made by the demons
Beelzebub, Judas Iscariot, Akabor, Allida, and Veroba
during a series of exorcisms’ from 1975 to 1978
A translation from the French, by Nancy Knowles Smith, of the book
‘Avertissements de l’Au’delà à l’Église Contemporaine – Aveux de l’Enfer’
by Jean Marty.
The revelations have also been published in German by Bonaventure Meyer in Switzerland.
Jean Marty’s book in French is available from ‘Les Editions Saint Raphael, 31 Ouest, rue King, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada J IH INS.
E= Exorcist
A= Akabor, a fallen angel, from The Choir of Thrones
E: Continue, in the name of the Blessed Virgin, to say what she commands you to say!
A: It (the Passion of Christ) has to go on. People must suffer for each other, and offer up these sufferings in the name of the Cross of Christ and the sufferings of Christ. You must suffer in union with the Blessed Virgin and all the renunciations she endured during her life in order to unite her own sufferings with the terrible sufferings of Christ on the Cross and in His Agony in the Garden of Olives.
These sufferings were more terrible than men believe. In the Garden of Olives, Christ suffered in ways other than those that you perhaps know about. He was crushed by the Justice of God as if He had been the greatest of sinners, and as if He were going to have to go to Hell. He had to undergo this suffering for you men. Otherwise, you would not have been saved. He had to endure such terrible sufferings, that He was almost on the point of believing that He would go to Hell.[10]
His sufferings were so great that He felt Himself totally abandoned by the Heavenly Father. He sweated blood because He felt Himself totally separated from the Eternal Father and abandoned Him (he weeps piteously). He was crushed as if He were one of the greatest sinners.
I am glad that you made the conscious decision to do that. And remember when you join your parish RCIA program to swim the Tiber and become Catholic, you will have use to thank.
Before I injured my back I was able to, but not so much lately.
Seriously here is an idea why not stick tot he original topic and start a different thread with that as the topic?
This verse refutes the notion of purgatory itself. We die once, then judgment. No purification process needed.
Christians already know their final destiny. It's not a wait and hope I've done the right things game.
John wrote extensively on this....as does all the NT when read in context. (all verses NASB)
1 John 5:13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know you have eternal life.
John 3:15 that whoever believes may in Him have eternal life.
He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 5:24 Truly, truly I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
John 6:35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him may have eternal life; and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.
Paul also wrote about this in Ephesians 1:13, 4:30 and 2 Corinthians 1:22 when he notes we are sealed by the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians describes this sealing by the Holy Spirit as a down payment on our future inheritance. The word pledge in Ephesians conveys the meaning of ernest money.
I can find no place in the NT where it ever says the believer can either unseal himself or that God unseals him.
This is the security of the believer.
Those who reject this reject the Word itself.
At the end of time, when Jesus returns, there will come the general judgment to which the Bible refers, for example, in Matthew 25:31-32: "When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats." In this general judgment all our sins will be publicly revealed (Luke 12:2–5).
In the NT sheep always represent believers....goats unbelievers.
Romans 4:7-8 tells us all of our lawless deeds have been forgiven and our sins have been covered and these will not be taken into account by the Lord.
In none one of the above passages do we see mention of a soul in purgatory or limbo or a between state.
Christians are forgiven by the blood of Christ; our sins are covered by the blood of Christ.
There is nothing, repeat nothing, man can do to "clean himself" up after he dies.
Recall...Hebrews is directed primarily to a Jewish audience.
Hebrews 10:9-10 then He said, Behold, I have come to do Your will." He takes away the first in order to establish the second. By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Later in Hebrews 10:18....Now where there is forgiveness of these things, there is no longer any offering for sin.One either has faith in Christ or one doesn't.
There's no in between.
That’s quite different than what you posted.
Not to me it isn’t.
St. Teresa of Avila
Sorry, it was a long list!
However He chooses, let us always remember the Holy Souls, that they may soon be purged and happy in Heaven- we are the instruments of God's Mercy when we do!!!
Those who don't believe, is it worth refusing if there is the minutest possibility of a simple prayer being of assistance to one of your dear ones- or even of one of your brethren you have not met?
May we all meet one day in Heaven!
G-d ♡ bless you!
Grateful ✟ ✡
“Purgatory is not in the bible in the KJV...”
Sure it is:
“I will use the 1611 King James Version of the Bible, a famous Protestant translation.”: http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/Articles/the_bible_teaches_purgatory.pdf
Here’s something else about your KJV: http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/kjvo.htm
Dude, it inst in the original Hebrew or Greek, period. Its not in the Bible, you can try and act like that’s what someone said or or a scholar interpreted it that way but its not there. It never has been. All you need is Christ(It is finished and he is the only way), period, anything else is blasphemy.
The KJV is better than your Catholic bible(and our best English translation from the originals), and your catholic catechism that states Catholics and Islam worship the same God.
Sorry I’ll pass on the pagan Catholic church with all its pagan symbols and rituals that are man made from the pagan Roman empire and not of the holy word. I’m done arguing this so, go kiss the pope ring, and bow to your statues, and have your little holy trinkets that mean nothing,(as Christ said its idolatry), and pray to people that isn’t Christ or God, and I’ll worship my way as a Baptist. Have a good day.
“All you need is Christ(It is finished and he is the only way), period, anything else is blasphemy.”
So you don’t need grace?
Of course you’ll respond with something like, “Well, yes, you need grace. Christ gives us the grace we need to get to heaven.” And you would be right. The problem for you is that it is Christ and His grace that make Purgatory work.
The blasphemy is all yours.
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