Posted on 07/09/2015 8:03:43 PM PDT by Morgana
I’m Michael Voris coming to you from London, England.
This country is planted thick with churches and convents and monasteries and practically all of them are stolen property. Buildings that originally were built by Catholic religious orders and everyday Catholics over the course of centuries were ripped off from the Catholic Church in a handful of years because Henry VIII couldn’t control his sexual desires.
So part of the fabric of English Catholicism is this undercurrent of having been victimized by the Protestant, usurping monarchy and greedy noblemen. It’s woven into the very life and language of some faithful English Catholics — even so far as questioning the legitimacy of the royal family because the monarchy was also a victim of theft during the religious battles of England.
But how did all this come to pass almost 500 years ago? How did a country, a nation so faithful to the Church that it was called “Mary’s Dowry,” simply flip so easily to the state-run Protestant entity known as Anglicanism, or the Church of England?
This much is certain: because of the cowardice and political machinations of the Catholic bishops of the time. Those bishops simply miscalculated. They thought that Henry’s threat to the Church would pass soon enough and things would go back to life as usual. What they failed to include in their calculus was all the other characters waiting in the wings to devour the Church — people like Lutheran-in-spirit Thomas Cranmer and the large number of English who had much to profit from a financially weakened Church and so forth. There were many Englishmen just waiting for the moment when they could tear the Church apart and seize Her lands, holdings, properties, buildings, etc. Those bishops, just like many today, failed to see the larger, much broader agenda at work just beneath the surface.
The Church has all kinds of enemies, all types that have an interest in seeing Her be destroyed. Some hate the teachings. Others have a guilty conscience and take it out on the Chuch. Others still are indifferent and simply see the Church as standing in the way of cultural "progress." Others see the Church as an artifact of the Middle Ages whose time has passed, and who should be relegated to history. Many have a specific agenda, such as sodomite marriage, and want the Church out of the debate.
Despite the intentions, they are all motivated by evil, and when people are motivated by evil (and it doesn’t matter if it’s conscious or not), they are capable of anything when put in the right circumstances.
Consider what happened here in this very country: the gruesome martyrdom of Catholics, the outlawing of the Faith, the overrunning of hundreds of monasteries and schools and parishes.
This was a Catholic country through and through, and it was a lustful desire of the Catholic king that brought it all tumbling down.
The son of King Henry VIII, Edward VI, is the one who essentially bulldozed the Church over the cliff here, while after a brief Catholic respite under half-sister Mary, Elizabeth I came to the throne and finished the job. But that coy old witch was very clever indeed.
In order to bring an end to the sectarian revolts, she advanced a hybrid religion, one that looked Catholic on the outside, to win the favor of all the stupid, largely Catholic populace, too uneducated to really notice that underneath the Catholic veneer was a decidedly anti-Catholic religion.
Things appeared rather normal to most people, who went about their business as usual as England was slowly transformed into the non-Catholic nation that it is today, stripped of nearly all its former Catholic glory.
When smart Catholics caught on and began a quiet seditionist movement to keep the Faith alive by sneakily importing English priests from a secret seminary established in France, Elizabeth showed her true colors by capturing and killing many of them. More than 200 years before France’s Reign of Terror against the Faith, Satan had a warm-up act in the Elizabethan terror campaign on these shores.
It would not be long after "Good Queen Bess," as protestant history references her, that Englishmen in search of public office would have to renounce belief in the transubstantiation of the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Our Blessed Lord.
That this happened under the reign of King Charles II of the Stuarts is one of those historical ironies. As King of England he was also head of the Anglican church (small c), which historians note he roundly despised. But he played the game, even looking the other way when notable English martyr and archbishop of Armaugh Oliver Plunkett was hanged, drawn and quartered at the infamous Tyburn, which Elizabeth had put to good use.
As Charles lay dying, a priest, John Huddlestone, who had saved his life in battle during his youth, was now smuggled in to save his soul. Protestant King Charles II converted to the Catholic faith his last full day on earth, and following absolution and anointing, the Blessed Sacrament was held over him and he made a profession of faith, breaking English law.
Today, Protestant anti-Catholicism has been overthrown by secular anti-Catholicism. A widely acclaimed novel — “Wolf Hall” by author Hillary Mantel — has been turned into a spectacular TV production by the BBC and has now begun airing on PBS back in the States as of Easter Sunday. The novel seeks to deliberately turn history on its ear and depict St. Thomas More as a villainous, rotten man and Thomas Cromwell as an effective administrator having to contest the evil More at every turn. It is very important to note that author Hillary Mantel has said publicly that the Catholic Church is not a place for respectable people.
There is a lesson for Catholics in the West everywhere outside of England to learn from English Catholics: the tide is turning swiftly and strongly against Catholics. Just as happened here almost 500 years ago, the power of the state was used to extinguish Catholic life, and it all began because of King Henry’s lust.
America doesn’t have a king — at least officially, Mr. Obama — but the culture sets patterns and views like a king. Whether those powers are assumed into a single lust-crazed, murderous monarch, or spread out over a society that kills for love of sex, matters little in the end. The powers that be — whether king or culture — cannot let Catholic truth remain, because Catholic truth is an affront to them.
Catholics in America, unlike here in England, can’t easily relate to the reality of having your churches stolen from you and your property ripped from you. But the lesson to be learned from Merry Olde England is this: When the scales tip far enough (and they are tipping most decidedly), anything can happen.
Catholics in the West need to be preparing spiritually for persecution. The forces gathering against the Church from every side may be multi-dimensional, but they are totally united in their goal because of who it is that commands them.
Well stated.
This not aimed at you, but towards the often breathless near-mindlessness of "news" in general, and squabbling usually (except for when I'm asserting my own rights, even those given by God to all of us, if we could but gently grasp those without crushing, and distorting those, possibly harming ourselves and others in the process -- which last though not entirely prohibited is yet to be avoided as much as possible without surrendering the blessings);
I apologize, the tract implied Paul’s and Christ’s words from scripture supported the statement ‘that there would be a few ravenous wolves among Church leaders’. It uses scripture passages as a reference, when scripture doesn’t support that contention. It looks like the claim is made, scripture referenced, good to go, no one will ever check to see if scripture actually supports the contention just made. Scripture says neither ‘few’ nor that the wolves be ‘leaders’.
Yes, followers of a sacred cow can trash competition but cannot tolerate imputation of fault to her.
There was evil and inexcusable acts done by both sides and it’s always a power and control thing. And frequently, religion is used for the justification of it.
Yes, always very human motives, e.g. power, politics, etc, and when something can be used to support the action, especially religion, then it will be used. But, as we can see in the person of Henry VIII himself, when religion gets in the way, it is thrown aside and remade in a way which will no longer be a problem. Religion may matter to this or that person, but politics usually matters more.
And it’s WRONG when done by both sides, and both sides need to admit their own culpability in it.
Well, for me personally, I think everybody who did these things has been dead for ages, and their culpability went to the grave with them. I don't really care about culpability in things like the Inquisition, or Elizabeth I's actions, or whoever. They did nothing to me, and so that is that. I really only care about historical accuracy, and that usually means not looking to blame churches, since they rarely really do these things or drive them directly. Politics is the problem, then and now.
It is like the IRA. A while back, when that was all over the news, reporters and people would go on and on about the Catholics vs the Protestants. Complete crap. That had nothing to do with anything. It was Irish vs the English. The republican movement was, from very early on, multi-faith. Many significant Protestants were involved from the start. They wanted the English rulers out just as the Catholics did. Anyone remember Parnell?
If the tired old Catholic/Protestant hatred trope were really the truth then there would have been no wars between countries before the Reformation. Oops. Not quite. Plenty of Catholic kings have fought other Catholics, and some even fought on the side of Protestants later on. People go to war because they will get something out of it, and people persecute other people for the same reason. Governments, and other similar human organizations, just honestly have never been that pious, ever. Catholic kings and queens have been corrupt and warlike, and so have Protestants. As much as we want to think our churches just turn people around and make them perfect saints, and so any future conflict can only be some other group's fault, it just isn't true.
It is all political. That is what motivates kings and parliaments, not religion. And when it looks like religion that usually means some politician is using faith to justify what he wanted to do politically. So, we should stop blaming each other, and our mutual churches, and start blaming the politicians.
Worried about physical death more than spiritual?
It’s easy to make misteaks like this. I dew them all of the thyme.
No.
“Why should Citizens in every country be taught to love the Lord and His Church every day. Why is it that some people do not love the Lord and do not study and obey the Magisterium? Because it’s a heresy?”
Good question. Yes, it is a mystery. The Blessed Mother asked the Lord to help with the wine. She seems to help with other tasks, too, such as help with faith and obedience. Perhaps the failure to say the rosary leads to the failure to acknowledge the Lord and to appreciate His cool Church which blows away every other church and religion in terms of science, art and missionary work.
No; she did not.
This teaching of Rome is NOWHERE to be found in the BIBLE Rome assembled.
1 And the third day, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee: and the mother of Jesus was there.
2 And Jesus also was invited, and his disciples, to the marriage.
3 And the wine failing, the mother of Jesus saith to him: They have no wine.
4 And Jesus saith to her: Woman, what is that to me and to thee? my hour is not yet come.
5 His mother saith to the waiters: Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye.
6 Now there were set there six waterpots of stone, according to the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three measures apiece.
7 Jesus saith to them: Fill the waterpots with water. And they filled them up to the brim.
8 And Jesus saith to them: Draw out now, and carry to the chief steward of the feast. And they carried it.
9 And when the chief steward had tasted the water made wine, and knew not whence it was, but the waiters knew who had drawn the water; the chief steward calleth the bridegroom,
10 And saith to him: Every man at first setteth forth good wine, and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse. But thou hast kept the good wine until now.
11 This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee; and manifested his glory, and his disciples believed in him.
12 After this he went down to Capharnaum, he and his mother, and his brethren, and his disciples: and they remained there not many days.
FORCE the Catholics to do so!
It's Rome's ball that is being dropped.
Get RID of the ones who WILL not toe the line!
Thank you for your clarifications. I appreciate it.
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