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Saying women should abstain unless they want children is “violence” says minister
clinicquotes.com ^ | June 11, 2015 | Sarah Terzo

Posted on 06/24/2015 10:58:41 PM PDT by Morgana

From pro-choice Methodist Minister John M Swomley:

“There is also covert violence in the idea that women should not have sexual intercourse if they don’t want children. An act of sexual intercourse is not an implied contract to have children. While this may be the belief of those who accept the doctrine that every sexual act must be open to procreation, it would be violent for any government to decide that such a sectarian doctrine should be enforced against anyone, Catholic or non-Catholic, who does not accept that teaching.”

John M Swomley Compulsory Pregnancy: The War against American Women (Amherst, New York: Humanist Press, 1999) 58

Suggesting a woman shouldn’t have sex is violence, but abortion is not? Look at the picture of an aborted baby (first trimester) below and ask yourself if a suggestion of abstinence is more violent than abortion.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; clinicquotes; methodist; prolife; theysaidit

1 posted on 06/24/2015 10:58:41 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

People, in general, shouldn’t have sex unless they are married and they are having it with the person whom they married. I speak about traditional marriage. It keeps society strong and prevents the spread of STD/STIs. It keeps children safer and gives them a more stable environment as a whole.


2 posted on 06/24/2015 11:02:22 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("Woe to you lawyers as well! For you weigh men down with burdens hard to bear..."- Luke 11:46)
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To: Morgana

Saying idiotic things like this minister is violence to intelligence.


3 posted on 06/24/2015 11:34:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Morgana

What are we guys to do???

If we have consensual sex with a woman it is rape. If we DON’T have sex it is a form of violence!

Does this mean I am committing violence on all the women I am not having sex with???


4 posted on 06/25/2015 1:09:38 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Morgana

The abortion industry has a very skewed view of violence. In order to distract from the horrific violence it commits upon innocent children every day, abortion promoters snatch at dust and moonbeams to claim that a whole slew of non-violent actions are actually violent.

Black is white, up is down, wet is dry.


5 posted on 06/25/2015 2:26:04 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Morgana

Yet another MAN who thinks that women need to be more like men. After all, MEN, the ideal, never become pregnant or give birth, no matter how much sex they have or with what.


6 posted on 06/25/2015 2:37:27 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You know I don't find this stuff amusing anymore.)
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To: Politicalkiddo

It also encourages people to grow up and be responsible. That’s why liberals oppose sexual morality.


7 posted on 06/25/2015 3:39:39 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: Morgana

What’s violence is imposing laws contrary to reason and nature.


8 posted on 06/25/2015 5:01:13 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: freedomfiter2

True. But sadly, liberals aren’t the only ones who oppose sexual morality, growing up, and behaving responsibly.


9 posted on 06/25/2015 5:06:02 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

Sexual immorality is one of the defining characteristics of liberalism.


10 posted on 06/25/2015 5:22:53 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: freedomfiter2

That may be. But surely you’ve been around long enough to see it’s not limited to liberals.


11 posted on 06/25/2015 5:30:44 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Tax-chick

I always thought that men would have a different perspective about sex if they either had to have the children or nobody was sure who was going to get pregnant when a couple had sex.

If men had to have babies, they’d find a better way to do it in ten years, or the human race would die out.


12 posted on 06/25/2015 5:33:38 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

I don’t think they’d make it through the first year of menstruation.


13 posted on 06/25/2015 5:35:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You know I don't find this stuff amusing anymore.)
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To: LearsFool

People who are opposed to Christian moral standards aren’t conservative. They may be right of center moderates but you can’t maintain a conservative society with liberal morals. That’s why the Communists were so eager to push the sexual freedom on America.


14 posted on 06/25/2015 7:04:14 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: Tax-chick

I didn’t think I would either.


15 posted on 06/25/2015 7:20:18 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: freedomfiter2
you can’t maintain a conservative society with liberal morals.

No question about that! Thanks for explaining your definitions of "conservative" and "liberal", since they're not the usual ones.
16 posted on 06/25/2015 7:31:33 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

I just believe that to a conservative you have to adhere to all the legs of the conservative stool. Limited government, strong defense, and be socially conservative.


17 posted on 06/25/2015 7:43:02 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: Morgana

No reason to enforce this with law,

just stop using the law to incentivize having bastards
by paying women to have children out of wedlock,

and the whole problem instantly declines.


18 posted on 06/25/2015 7:44:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: freedomfiter2

I’m in complete agreement with you there. But in seeing the connection between morality and freedom, I fear we’re among the minority.


19 posted on 06/25/2015 7:53:02 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Morgana

I doubt that this minister knows the history of many saints who voluntarily chose abstinence in their marriage as a sacrifice to honor God.


20 posted on 06/25/2015 7:55:16 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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