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DOCTRINE OF SALVATION BY WORKS Eph 2:9
Bible study notes | 1993 | R. B. Thieme, Jr.

Posted on 06/15/2015 2:49:32 AM PDT by Cvengr

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To: metmom; teppe; StormPrepper; Normandy; WilliamRobert
Sacraments are NOT found in Scripture. Th word is not found anywhere in Scripture.

The formulas for *properly* performing sacraments is not found anywhere in Scripture.

That is all man made tradition, added to Scripture that God never instructed us in.

EXACTLY the same can be said of MORMONism.

NONE of their 'sacred' Temple Rituals are found.

The REQUIREMENT for them are not found in any of their scripture.

261 posted on 06/17/2015 11:46:26 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ravenwolf

I now self-identify myself as POOR!

Catholics who do NOT open their wallets and send me money obviously do NOT have Genuine Faith!

262 posted on 06/17/2015 11:48:11 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I now self-identify myself as POOR!


Who said any thing about helping the poor.

Just the hungry.


263 posted on 06/17/2015 4:03:20 PM PDT by ravenwolf (t)
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To: Cvengr; beancounter13

“This is why the Roman Catholic Cult fails to have saving faith in Christ”...

This is incorrect because this is NOT the Church teaching at all!

The Roman Catholic Faith DOES teach saving Faith in Christ:

Our Catechism specifically sates that “believing in Jesus Christ and the One who sent him for our salvation IS NECESSARY FOR OBTAINING THAT SALVATION.” (ccc #161)

The basis for the teaching is scripture: cited:

Mark 16:16; John 3:36; 6:40.

“The Cross was ALL JUDGMENT”.

This is an opinion and not supported by scripture:

Romans 11:22 - it is clear that salvation; even for a BELIEVER (one who has faith) can be lost by sin.

For believers, our faith is proved by our actions. That is what Charity is - faith WORKS through charity. If it doesn’t, then we don’t have faith. IT IS BOTH.

Romans 2:5-8, 13


264 posted on 06/18/2015 10:51:37 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Elsie
http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/finding-help
265 posted on 06/19/2015 6:40:58 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper
NONE of their 'sacred' Temple Rituals are found.

and I am the sick one?

You have a LOT more 'faith' than I have!

266 posted on 06/19/2015 10:02:57 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
NONE of their 'sacred' Temple Rituals are found.

and I am the sick one?

You have a LOT more 'faith' than I have!

267 posted on 06/19/2015 10:03:19 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stonehouse01
“The Cross was ALL JUDGMENT”. This is an opinion and not supported by scripture:

We call it the Gospel.

268 posted on 06/19/2015 6:54:55 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: metmom

FOUR MARKS OF THE TRUE CHURCH

If we wish to locate the Church founded by Jesus, we need to locate the one that has the four chief marks or qualities of his Church. The Church we seek must be one, holy, catholic, and apostolic.
The Church Is One (Rom. 12:5, 1 Cor. 10:17, 12:13, CCC 813–822)

Jesus established only one Church, not a collection of differing churches (Lutheran, Baptist, Anglican, and so on). The Bible says the Church is the bride of Christ (Eph. 5:23–32). Jesus can have but one spouse, and his spouse is the Catholic Church.

His Church also teaches just one set of doctrines, which must be the same as those taught by the apostles (Jude 3). This is the unity of belief to which Scripture calls us (Phil. 1:27, 2:2).

Although some Catholics dissent from officially-taught doctrines, the Church’s official teachers—the pope and the bishops united with him—have never changed any doctrine. Over the centuries, as doctrines are examined more fully, the Church comes to understand them more deeply (John 16:12–13), but it never understands them to mean the opposite of what they once meant.
The Church Is Holy (Eph. 5:25–27, Rev. 19:7–8, CCC 823–829)

By his grace Jesus makes the Church holy, just as he is holy. This doesn’t mean that each member is always holy. Jesus said there would be both good and bad members in the Church (John 6:70), and not all the members would go to heaven (Matt. 7:21–23).

But the Church itself is holy because it is the source of holiness and is the guardian of the special means of grace Jesus established, the sacraments (cf. Eph. 5:26).
The Church Is Catholic (Matt. 28:19–20, Rev. 5:9–10, CCC 830–856)

Jesus’ Church is called catholic (”universal” in Greek) because it is his gift to all people. He told his apostles to go throughout the world and make disciples of “all nations” (Matt. 28:19–20).

For 2,000 years the Catholic Church has carried out this mission, preaching the good news that Christ died for all men and that he wants all of us to be members of his universal family (Gal. 3:28).

Nowadays the Catholic Church is found in every country of the world and is still sending out missionaries to “make disciples of all nations” (Matt. 28:19).

The Church Jesus established was known by its most common title, “the Catholic Church,” at least as early as the year 107, when Ignatius of Antioch used that title to describe the one Church Jesus founded. The title apparently was old in Ignatius’s time, which means it probably went all the way back to the time of the apostles.
The Church Is Apostolic (Eph. 2:19–20, CCC 857–865)

The Church Jesus founded is apostolic because he appointed the apostles to be the first leaders of the Church, and their successors were to be its future leaders. The apostles were the first bishops, and, since the first century, there has been an unbroken line of Catholic bishops faithfully handing on what the apostles taught the first Christians in Scripture and oral Tradition (2 Tim. 2:2).

These beliefs include the bodily Resurrection of Jesus, the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, the sacrificial nature of the Mass, the forgiveness of sins through a priest, baptismal regeneration, the existence of purgatory, Mary’s special role, and much more —even the doctrine of apostolic succession itself.

Early Christian writings prove the first Christians were thoroughly Catholic in belief and practice and looked to the successors of the apostles as their leaders. What these first Christians believed is still believed by the Catholic Church. No other Church can make that claim.


269 posted on 06/19/2015 8:13:17 PM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Mark17

Go Leafs..LOL


270 posted on 06/24/2015 3:21:06 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: kingattax
Go Leafs..LOL

LOL, Go Blackhawks. A dynasty?

271 posted on 06/24/2015 3:54:53 PM PDT by Mark17 (Lonely people live in every city, men who face a dark and lonely grave. Lonely voices do I hear)
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To: Mark17

make them play with no sticks ! lol


272 posted on 06/26/2015 6:57:47 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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