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1 posted on 05/27/2015 12:26:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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This person obviously failed logic 101.

A, B, and C have many D citizens
A, B, and C legalized E
Therefore, D caused E

That is what is known as a logical fallacy. There are way too many other variables involved to make that conclusion. One likely has nothing to do with the other.


2 posted on 05/27/2015 12:31:26 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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With the possible exception of Ireland, (not sure anymore), Church attendance in all of the countries you mentioned is extremely low.

Perhaps we should try somehow to distinguish between practicing and non-practicing.


3 posted on 05/27/2015 12:32:29 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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New York Times ^ | 05/27/2015 | Frank Bruni
C'mon, this is the NY Times. WTH believes them?
4 posted on 05/27/2015 12:37:17 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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"Bravo!"

.

"Who am I to judge?"


6 posted on 05/27/2015 12:39:57 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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Let’s just admit it, marriage, as a component shaping Western Culture, died when divorce became normal, children became optional, and husband/wife roles were blurred. Sodomite Marriage is not the assault we think it is. It’s beating a dead horse.


8 posted on 05/27/2015 12:41:21 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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"And all of them belong to the vanguard of 20 nations that have decided to make same-sex marriage legal."

When the native voters in these same-sex countries become minority voters to Muslim voters as a consequence of abortion and gay marriage, then majority Muslim voters will outlaw same-sex marriage again - and Christianity along with it.

13 posted on 05/27/2015 12:51:35 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Hmmmm, interesting. California passed their marriage law in Prop 22 by around 62% (61 actually), and the homo-Fascists cried “foul.”


16 posted on 05/27/2015 12:56:57 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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Frank, you stunk at reviewing restaurants but I wish you’d go back to that hat trick instead of dumb editorials like this!


18 posted on 05/27/2015 1:01:00 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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And all of them belong to the vanguard of 20 nations that have decided to make same-sex marriage legal.

The other ones being traditional Protestant stalwarts like the Netherlands, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, the UK, etc.

So basically, religion has nothing to do with it, because the West is mostly apostate anyway.

(What's really strange is that the author thinks it's somehow significant that nominal Catholics make up 38% of the Canadian population -- not a majority by any means -- when same-sex marriage was imposed in Canada by legislation and judicial decree anyway, and has never been passed in a referendum.)

25 posted on 05/27/2015 1:11:45 PM PDT by Campion
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Another thing in common. The Catholic Church won’t marry gays in any one of the countries.


27 posted on 05/27/2015 1:14:06 PM PDT by ex-snook (To conquer use Jesus, not bombs.)
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These are countries, not the Catholic Church, making these decisions.


35 posted on 05/27/2015 1:21:30 PM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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They aren’t they are loud voices which have like minded media people giving them the most airtime.


38 posted on 05/27/2015 1:26:33 PM PDT by RginTN
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Catholic in Name Only

CINO’s


42 posted on 05/27/2015 1:33:54 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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I’m sure there are some Catholics who support gay marriage.

I don’t happen to know any personally.


44 posted on 05/27/2015 1:34:34 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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First, it was all the socalled catholic priests playing
with parishioners’ children, once caught, shipped, er,
transferred to another state, out of the reach of the
vengeful parents.

So now, it is not that much of a stretch for full blown
Church sanctioned, and accepted by the parishioners,
queers as priests.


45 posted on 05/27/2015 1:34:43 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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I’m wondering about the validity of this claim.


53 posted on 05/27/2015 1:47:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The Catechism of the Catholic Church addresses homosexuality very clearly (#2357) ...

Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience sexual attraction to others of the same sex. Although homosexuality has taken many forms, its psychological source remains largely unexplained. Catholic Tradition (based on biblical texts) has always taught that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered" (Congregation for Doctrine of Faith). They are against the natural law, are closed to the gift of life, and do not proceed from a genuine sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

I wonder what other faith traditions have such a clear statement that applies to all members.

60 posted on 05/27/2015 1:55:50 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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Fixed it.

Take a look at this list of countries: Norway, Finland, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, Canada, The United Kingdom, New Zealand, South Africa. Name two things that they have in common.

They don’t share a continent, obviously. Or a language. But in all of them, Protestant churches have more adherents, at least nominally, than any than any other religious denomination does. And all of them belong to the vanguard of 20 nations that have decided to make same-sex marriage legal.

Such is the Western World now. When the West as a whole is drifting in that direction, trivial arguments about Catholicism and Protestantism are irrelevant, however much satisfaction they give to the more twisted souls among us.

FWIW: "No religion" or atheism + agnosticism is now the largest religion in The Netherlands, once a stronghold of the Reformation. Irreligion may also be the largest "faith" in other European countries. Figuring out just how that happened and what if anything can be done about it is probably more important than hurling charges across denominational divides.

63 posted on 05/27/2015 2:00:18 PM PDT by x
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Just rechecking Bruni’s cv and found out he’s not only a proud gay male but a bulimic, as well!


67 posted on 05/27/2015 2:14:59 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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Two can play the blame game.

Protestants originally led the charge for divorce.

As a Catholic, I’m still only as married or divorced as the Vatican says I am.


84 posted on 05/27/2015 3:17:36 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that sas farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkie)
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