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How Can the (Catholic) Church Teach Angels?
Catholic Answers ^ | March 15, 2015 | Tim Staples

Posted on 05/20/2015 2:41:37 PM PDT by NYer

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To: verga

If you had said ‘non-Catholics cannot say that truthfully’ it would not have been making it personal. ‘None of you’ like ‘each of you’ and ‘all of you’ makes it personal, individually, each and every one.


241 posted on 05/22/2015 8:10:36 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Mark17
Thank you- I appreciate the advice, as well as the discussions... God bless you!
242 posted on 05/22/2015 9:12:20 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: Religion Moderator; verga; WVKayaker
To Religion Moderator:

In the same post above, where WVKayaker complained about mind reading, he/she included the following:

"...and shows every trait of a FRoman cultic Troll!", referring to the remark in question, as well as to the person who made it.

"veggie" at the end of a quote as opposed to the proper handle of verga, in an otherwise well-edited post.

If the alleged "mind reading" issue, over the use of an indefinite pronoun, "none" is considered to be making it personal, what would the above direct statements be considered?

Perhaps it escaped your notice. Perhaps it's worth a second look at the situation.

Thank you.

244 posted on 05/22/2015 10:28:09 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: Grateful2God

Your out of context “quote” not withstanding, the guidelines for the RF have been applied evenly and correctly.

Continue on discussing/debating the topic of the thread.


245 posted on 05/22/2015 11:35:43 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Grateful2God
Thank you- I appreciate the advice, as well as the discussions... God bless you!

LOL, well, as we used to say, during my 20 year USAF career: No sweat GI. Actually, in my early 20s, I had what I would consider, experiences similar to yours. I didn't consider eastern religions. It just seems like I was immersed in nothingness. It is difficult to explain, but I think you have an idea of what I mean. After two years of wandering in the spiritual desert, I had nothing inside except anger, frustration, bitterness and guilt. Someone said, it looks like nothing you have tried, has brought you any peace. He said, just try reading scripture, and see what happens. I am glad I did.

246 posted on 05/22/2015 11:55:08 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forever more endure.)
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To: Grateful2God; smvoice
Where they're concerned, it's difficult to tell between having genuine concern for souls, and gloating over their own perceived salvation.

It's that projection thing again......

Nobody is gloating over their own salvation.

Nice little dig there using the word *perceived* in regard to their salvation.

247 posted on 05/23/2015 2:01:18 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Grateful2God
On the other hand, there are the people who are constantly slamming the Church and insisting we're all going to hell.

And Catholicism states officially that those who are not Catholic are going to hell.

So what's your ground for complaint about the opinions of others?

Who's INSISTING that you're going to hell and why do you think they're saying that?

248 posted on 05/23/2015 2:03:59 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Grateful2God

Isn’t the Catholic church the church that never changes, having taught the same doctrine for all of its 2,000 years since its inception?

So, when the Catholic church makes up its mind about whether non-Catholics are saved or not or going to hell or not, could you get back to us?


249 posted on 05/23/2015 2:06:47 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Grateful2God

Two sets of rules G2G.


250 posted on 05/23/2015 3:34:23 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: vladimir998
– even when I told you where the information was within it.

You have enough time to SCOLD me; yet do NOT have enough to actually POST what you want ME to read.

Why not post it for the WORLD to see?

251 posted on 05/23/2015 4:50:01 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
Cut, paste in Times New Roman, 12 pt. font, with standard margins in Microsoft Word = 46 standard pages.

Got time to cut and paste...

252 posted on 05/23/2015 4:50:40 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: vladimir998
You do quite a bit to prove Newman right.

You manage to find time to C&P from something Newman said/wrote...



253 posted on 05/23/2015 4:52:31 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
Reading their actions is not mind reading.

True; but INTERPRETING them sure can be!

254 posted on 05/23/2015 4:53:32 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Religion Moderator
Continue on discussing/debating the topic of the thread.



255 posted on 05/23/2015 4:57:20 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
Two sets of rules G2G.

Luther was a flamin' HERETIC!

Our current pope is WORTHLESS!

256 posted on 05/23/2015 4:58:36 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Well since every prot is their own pope.....


257 posted on 05/23/2015 5:44:52 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: Elsie

“You manage to find time to C&P from something Newman said/wrote...”

There’s practically no time involved.

“Got time to cut and paste...”

That took less than 10 seconds. You take more time searching for and posting Seinfeld character shots. Remember, I posted the link to you days ago. You could have read the whole article many times over by now. Some people manage their time well. Others apparently post Seinfeld pics when they have run out of excuses.

“You have enough time to SCOLD me; yet do NOT have enough to actually POST what you want ME to read.”

Where did I ever say I didn’t have enough time? Why do anti-Catholics always resort to making up things that are clearly not true? An anti-Catholic might also pretend that what was posted in post # 237 was never posted.

“Why not post it for the WORLD to see?”

The link is right there in the thread multiple times. Anyone interested can look at it. Those who apparently know they will not be able to deal with the information in the article will make excuses to not look at it – even for days at a time.


258 posted on 05/23/2015 8:44:01 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Mark17
"Immersed in nothingness" was exactly how I felt when I was away and seeking. That was a really rotten time in my life-I imagine it wasn't too easy for my parents, either. I came from an Italian family. Ever watch "Everybody Loves Raymond"? "Our parents are involved!" (And let me tell you, that's an understatement!) That was the one time in my life that they backed off. They didn't treat me any differently, they went to Mass as always. Looking back, that took a lot of self-control on both their parts.

My faith was stronger when I came back, and it was my decision. You are correct, though, I've lapsed in my Scripture the last couple of weeks. I have to keep that in mind: it's usually the first thing I read in the morning, in Salvation's post with the commentary. The last couple of weeks have, well, no excuse- back on track!

Thanks for your concern. And thank you for your time in the Military. 20 years- God bless you!

259 posted on 05/23/2015 9:44:05 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: metmom

Not a dig. God is the judge, not we.


260 posted on 05/23/2015 9:50:32 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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