Posted on 04/21/2015 3:46:42 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid
Tell Jesus
This is what makes it blasphemous...
No, I am saying that Mariolatry is an insidious part of Catholicism. The poster who penned this is not an outlier, but a mainstream adherent to Romanism.
"Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection,"
(?Mary protects?)
" implored your help, or sought your intercession, was left unaided. Inspired with this confidence, I fly unto you,"
(How exactly does one fly to a human person in heaven?)
"O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you do I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions,"
(so petitioning is prayer, correct?)
"but in your mercy, hear and answer me. Amen,"
(Well, of course, 'Amen' follows prayer. So, Catholics pray to Mary...game, set, match).
Pure, unadulterated blasphemy.
Yes it is
We really won’t know until we get to heaven and get our questions answered.
I don’t possess an inner view of your mind, however, I can be of the belief you are sincere in the views you hold.
In trying to be courteous, you respond with condescension, why?
For the record, the Catholic church provided the Bible, while Scientology has provide nothing but misery. The Catholic Church is world’s oldest, largest, and most giving of any charitable organization, ever. It spreads the Gospel by word and deed, daily, and often times at great personal risk. I don’t think anybody has ever been a martyr for Scientology.
While a person may disagree with what think Catholicism is or what Catholics teach or think, one can not ignore the practical exercise of both the Great Commission and the Beatitudes on every inhabited continent in the world.
The reality is that all, ALL, Christian beliefs have their roots in Catholicism. It is a simple, provable, historical fact. There could be no volume known as the Bible without the Church obeying the Holy Spirit to compose it. There could be no Reformation without the Catholic Church. There could be no heresy against the Church, without the Church first preaching the Word revealed.
The Catholic Church, descended from the Apostles, proclaimed the Truth of Jesus Christ since His Resurrection. It continues to do so today. As those who bad-mouth the Church, and make claims against it continue to splinter among themselves, the Church remains united in the Truth. Denominations will contracept themselves out of existence, if they first don’t die off by acquiescing to the culture of today.
Only the Catholic Church has stood firm against contraception, abortion, euthanasia, homosexuality, divorce, and fornication. No other non-Catholic sect has. While individuals have, and God bless them, the non-Catholic sects have begun to wither or splinter in accepting relativism.
Oh, and the Catholic Church is the only organized religion to battle the Muslim threat, joining royal families and everyday people from all over Europe. Consider the Battle of Lepanto in 1571, and the Siege of Vienna in 1529 (and later Battle of Vienna 1683). I also don’t see any religious figure, esteemed as the Pope, call out the Armenian genocide, or Christian persecution a world-wide stage. We don’t even see that from our own political leaders.
May God bless you, and may you continue to seek Him, the Way, the Truth, and the Light.
I had read what you have posted and thank-you for your wonderful comments. God Bless.
I find that I need help in order to “pray always” as we are encouraged to do by St. Paul. Luke 1:28, 42 directs some of that prayer. Six Our Father’s - the creed, meditations on 20 mysteries 18 of which are directly scriptural - these all focus my scattered monkey brain on Jesus. I also do the Divine Mercy Chaplet daily. You might look into that. I also listen to only Christian radio including K-love and the local Catholic radio. So my goal is to immerse myself in all things Jesus.
You may misinterpret this as condescension, but it is a clear warning. Romanism is a cult...plain and simple. The so-called Roman Catholic Church organized itself around 300AD (if you read history honestly and ignore the party line propaganda). The NT was long formed (and the OT was in place by the Jews for hundreds of years), the body of believers well-taught in the true Gospel of Jesus Christ...the one and only Gospel of Grace. According to Paul, there is no "other" gospel, but just the bewitching of error. Gal. 1
And, no, Rome did not give us the Bible, if you are willing to listen to true history. Read the "Origin of the Bible" and get a feel for how the text really came together. So, ignoring the sick, self-aggrandizing homemade "religion" of Rome in favor of the Truth of Jesus as found in the Scriptures is not only appropriate, but absolutely necessary.
And, no, Rome did not descend from the Apostles, but from the Judaizers. Go read the text which you claim was delivered from Rome and you will find no reference to a Catholic Church in any way, shape, or form. There is no sacerdotalism (Jesus is the only Priest, a High Priest in Heaven), there is no Roman superiority (only individual gatherings of believers spread all over the world), and there is only, only, only grace creating faith...and none of that from ourselves, it is all a gift.
And, no, the Catholic cult has not stood fast. It is full of Nazi-loving (go look at the pictures of the pope shaking hands with Hitler and Mussolini), homosexuals, pedophiles, and worst of all...bad teachers of error. They teach a gospel of works directed by themselves. Blasphemy, my FRiend.
We extend the offer for all those in the Roman cult to come out into the light of Jesus, alone...if He permits. Paul, of course, said that the decision to be rescued lies only in the hands of God...not men. But, we are to extend thr offer and see if God permits. Similar to Acts 13:48. Check it out. Grace to you.
Maybe the roman Jesus is another Jesus.
But that would be a real blow to protestants who love the roman holy days of December 25 and easter Sunday found nowhere in scripture.they can be found in the Roman catholic catechism..
And it would explain why Mary in her 15 promises for praying the rosary, can be proven to be a liar on her ‘son’s witness when He confronted Satan with scripture..
But that would be a real blow to protestants who love the roman holy days of December 25 and easter Sunday found nowhere in scripture.they can be found in the Roman catholic catechism.."
?? There is no "love" for roman holy days. That a believer in Jesus would enjoy days set aside to emphasize Jesus does not tie them to Rome.
You believe Rome’s gospel.
The one that says Jesus died on good Friday for our sins, according to their catechism, was buried and raised from he grave the 3rd day, easter sunday, according to their catechism.
That isn’t what Paul taught.
He taught from the ‘old testament’ and those scriptures says the Lamb died for our sins on Passover(14th day),according to scripture. He was buried, and He was raised from the grave the 3rd Day (16th day), the Feast of First Fruits.
So subtle a difference.
Satan works subtley..
Nobody wonders why Passover seems to float around the pope Gregory calendar. It is why Rome gets away with their substitute ‘gospel’ according to their catechism. They control the calendar.
So prophetic that even protestant daughters accept Rome’s teaching without even knowing it..
Maybe Rome’s Mary isn’t the problem. She points to Rome’s Jesus.
Maybe it is Rome’s ‘Jesus’ that is the problem.
Satan is that clever..
Scripture warns about changing ‘times’ and ‘laws’ .. and scripture also warns of other Jesuses and other gospels.
Protestant daughters may be no better than their mother if rome peddles a false’pseudo’/substitute Christ that only counterfeits the genuine.
Whoa up here, del. You need to spend some time reading my posts before you pontificate on what I believe. Homework time...then get back to us.
You dont believe Jesus died on good Friday or raised Easter Sunday?
That is Rome’s gospel..
Sincerity Will Abolish Evil
For My Sake Will You Learn The Rosary?
December 28, 1987
Meditate The Rosary
May 31, 1988
Learn The Holy Rosary
Signs Of The End Of Times
June 2, 1988
The Holy Rosary
June 10, 1988
Die To Yourselves So That God May Live In You
Never Stop Praying Your Rosary
March 18, 1991
And more info from this discussion by Fr. John Abberton
Posted: October 6, 2005:
"For My Sake will you learn the Rosary?"
I believe those who denigrate Mary, and encourage others to join them in this, do so at their own peril.
One more time, my FRiend...go read my posts.
Yes, of course. "- Satan will be chained by the Rosary;"
Dutch, your posts says nothing about good Friday or easter..
I think it is a fair question since you did say early in a post about things that Rome ‘peddles’ unless I misread the post,
If you don’t believe in good Friday or easter Sunday, you didn’t post it here.
I just made the point that good Friday and easter Sunday are Roman doctrines too..
If you have a specific post from time immemorial where you blasted good Friday and easter Sunday, copy and paste it to a reply to me and I will apologize.
until then, I will assume with your first post to me that you dont really have a problem with those roman holy days,
Hence, my original post about Protestant daughters when they may ‘enjoy’ days set aside. Those aren’t protestant days,. Those are roman days..
And it gets really uncomfortable for a protestant when they are in attack mode on Roman catholiscm to then have to defend Roman catholism.
But it is exactly why I posted what I posted, when I posted..
And I needed only your first reply to see you are selective about what you will bash Rome over the head with.
But again, if there is some past post in an unrelated topic that you bashed Rome for teaching good Friday and easter Sunday. I will be willing to admit I assumed too much from your first reply to me..
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I don't "bash" Rome...I point out that it is an errant cult. This is a sincere attempt to help RCs see that there is significant difference between the biblical message (the real Word from God) and the doctrinal malaise of religion promulgated by Rome. We are calling those enmeshed in Rome's traditions and idolatries out into the light of Jesus, alone...if He permits them to do so. Unlimited divine determinism is the biblical picture painted.
But could it be argued that the Jesus, born on roman December 25, killed on good Friday and raised easter Sunday is a different ‘Jesus’
Different from A Hebrew Jesus born on a new moon day when the sun clothed the woman and the moon was under her feet.
(That astronomical event fell on September 26 in 2014!
A Hebrew Jesus that laid His life down as the Passover Lamb on Passover.
QRested in the tomb on the Sabbath of unleavened bread and raised on first fruits.
In all this Mary and ‘theological’ doctrine debate, one cant see that there is a different Jesus that Rome believes in?
Focusing on the ‘days’ one worships is exactly why revelation 13 has the unholy alliance breaking and causing others to break thefirst 4 commandments that specific deal with worship.
The first 4 commandments are in there if one looks hard enough
I think Rome deserves to be bashed by the way..
Not the people. The power and principality.
They have peddled a false Christ , a roman version, with a story that only can be told with their pope Gregory calendar.
And it has zero to do with their other doctrines. It has to do with their power to change times and laws and create a roman version for what plainly is the Word made flesh.
And I doubt the billy grahams of the world could conceive of another Jesus ..
Not in word or deed.
A counterfeit bill isn’t going to have misspellings or look like monopoly money.
The best counterfeits can only be tested when holding them up to the light.
On the basics of Rome’s teachings (Christmas, good Friday easter Sunday), they fail that Light test.
One that accepts the premise that Rome has anything to do with the Way, Truth and Life gives Rome too much attention..
They have counterfeited ( as a vessel for Satan) the Way, Truth and Life.
Catholics would certainly disagree with me on that.and I suspect most protestants would too..
And that was my point.
The catholic vs protestant debate may be a futile battle over Rome’s counterfeit when protestants accept that Rome has anything to do with Truth.
Of which if more protestants tested what they did have in common with what the first reformers call ‘antichrist’, they may get the same sinking knee buckling feeling I did..
And an immediate need to repent even though I never was member of a Roman catholic church..
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