Traveling the Path to Catholicism

Catholic Exchange.com ^ | March 12, 22015 | Fr. William Saunders

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[MamaB]

Thanks. Appreciate your posts.

[goodwithagun]

This forum is for discussion. Your purpose is to be decisive by asking questions, purposefully misinterpreting them, and cherry picking quotes (Biblical and otherwise) in an effort to justify your own beliefs.

[MamaB]

Y’all do that. Don’t you believe the Bible? I do.

[goodwithagun]

Devolving to I’m rubber and you’re glue, Barack? Once again you only intend to be divisive.

[MamaB]

LOL.

[BlueDragon]

in the right-hand photo the religious leader on the left has changed out his eyeglasses for a different pair.

And changed his tie, too.

Hold on...you were talking about the guys on the right-hand side as depicted in each photo? Ok now I've got it.

In the right-hand pic that leader of a (large) religious sect has a much smaller (even tiny?) representation of the torture device used by Roman Empire to finalize murder of a World Famous religious dissident.

...when in Rome do as the Israelis do...
no, wait, that's not it

when in Israel do as the Romans do ---uuhg! dang it all that ain't it either i'll get it right eventually just you wait and see

But what's with the open-mouthed bear on the lower left?

is the soul who assembled the imagery hoping to channel Elisha and bring on da' bears?

notice to kittens: do not tempt the bears

[daniel1212]

This forum is for discussion. If that is all it is for RCs, versus promotion of Rome, then they should not post such articles as Traveling the Path to Catholicism . What would a title such as Traveling the Path to Mormonism invite?

Your purpose is to be decisive

I think you mean divisive , and which this article and any stand for a truth claim is, since a Path to Catholicism is a path away from something else. While liberals claim Christians are divisive, as we must be if preaching union with Christ who came to bring division, they themselves are divisive.

by asking questions, purposefully misinterpreting them, and cherry picking quotes (Biblical and otherwise) in an effort to justify your own beliefs.

Now you are resorting to a argument by mere assertion, which i challenge you to substantiate and debate, since you have taken it upon yourself to respond to a request for two answers by impugning the character and content of the poster. Which is how you example engaging in discussion.

[goodwithagun]

Thank you for proving my point with your post. You did exactly as I wrote you would.

I just popped in to get the kids a snack and water. I’m going to grab my husband and I each a cold one and take them back outside to enjoy the beautiful day that the Lord has made. Peace be with you.

[roamer_1]

What utter nonsense. You have very little understanding of scripture. The Teacher from Nazareth was and is a Torah Observant Jew. Always will be, forever. He walked and talked the Torah that HaShem gave to Moshe (Moses) on Sinai. He said that it was eternal and that whoever kept the mitzvot (commandments) and taught others to do so would be great in the Kingdom of Heaven. Yeshua knew of no “church”. He created a movement across biblical Israel that brought the light of Torah to the nations. What is called the “Church” is a European/.Roman/ Greek collection of revived cultural icons with another name. It is idolatry.

Precisely right. Thank you.

[terycarl]

Impossible, as the church of Rome is largely invisible in the NT. For the NT church manifestly did not teach perpetual ensured magisterial infallibility, which is unseen and unnecessary in the life of the church, as is her separate class of believers distinctively titled "priests ," offering up "real" human flesh and blood as a sacrifice for sin, and literally consuming this to obtain spiritual life, around which act all else revolves, and looking to Peter as the first of a line of exalted infallible popes reigning over the church from Rome (which even Catholic scholarship provides testimony against), and a separate class of believers distinctively titled "saints," and praying to created beings in Heaven, and being formally justified by ones own sanctification/holiness, and thus enduring postmortem purifying torments in order to become good enough to enter Heaven, and saying rote prayers to obtain early release from it, and requiring clerical celibacy as the norm, among other things.

I think that is the longest sentence that I have ever seen!!!

[MamaB]

He did a good job though. : )

[BlueDragon]

Thank you for proving my point with your post. You did exactly as I wrote you would.

As for "decisive", yes, he is often enough that.

For the rest of the characterizations of what dan most often does here on, you just further established that it is himself whom is more correct in the overall course of this last exchange, though I'll grant that ultimately --- you were correct enough in saying I don't answer to you, for no one present here is that One ultimate judge.

Yet meanwhile, back at the ranch, as you said

"This forum is for discussion"

is the very thing dan has long worked at engaging in here, though few are willing to take him up on it...oftentimes making it all personal against himself (if not entirely ignoring him) -- which then helps to lead to himself asking personal questions which are not attacks, yet are effort to require a person to think and consider what the ramifications are for whatever else they had just been speaking towards or else supporting.

Genesis 1:4

Matthew 10:34

1 Corinthians 11:19 [check the commentaries]

And what has there been for many centuries (since the 16th at least) but there having been one particular ecclesiastical community holding forth that itself alone could unilaterally dismiss all others, along with any and all arguments raised -- not necessarily against God, or the Gospel of Christ, but complaints raised primarily against itself instead which are neither (God, or the Gospel).

At the same time that "it" would (and still attempts to) point towards how in centuries yet even more distant past, disputes were settled in Church Council even though those Councils of earliest times this one ecclesia whom presumes to have settled all disputes already, did not order to be commenced, nor did they preside over those Councils, and more often than not ---- it would not be one from among their own ecclesia making and presenting the arguments which won the day, in the first places(s).

Yet this one ecclesia presents itself as the only ecclesiastical community (there were 7 Churches in Asia addressed in book of Revelation, there were multiple churches in widely scattered locales, and although then altogether considering themselves One Church --- yet one in which no "pope" in or from 'Rome' OR FROM ANY OF THE OTHER churches presided over all the rest in ultimate earthly authority, as head, etc., showing Rome to have become in it's own ways something of a heretic and schismatic, whom none can seem to approach unless in complete surrender to that one's principles of sola ecclesia, as defined unilaterally by themselves (alone).

And so discussion must still proceed.

Here on FR we discuss these things among ourselves.

For folks around here who can't hack discussing concepts such as these, there are waa-bulances standing by...

no worries as for that one though... cute as she was and as acute the intended treatment, Bill called and canceled.

[goodwithagun]

Potato/poe-tah-toe, divisive/discussion. Hey, whatever makes you sleep better at night. You know what’s going to make me sleep better? The last six hours of playing outside with my babies, along with the few beers my husband and I are about to enjoy in peace. Peace be with you.

[Montana_Sam]

Your knowledge of Catholicism is seriously deficient. You can rectify that with some simple reading.

The reality is that Catholicism is the one Christian practice which is NOT a cult. All the other evangelical and protestant branch practices are exactly that - cults.

[WVKayaker]

The reality is that Catholicism is the one Christian practice which is NOT a cult. All the other evangelical and protestant branch practices are exactly that - cults.

I am sure you think that, but Scripture points the other direction...

Mary is dead, not the "Queen of Heaven". Saints are everyone of us believers, not some dead guy decorated in gold and jewels. There is only one High Priest in the New Testament, and there are only married in the leadership of the early church in Scripture. Paul cites it as a requirement.

You have been indoctrinated into believing all of that "mumbo jumbo" Latin stuff, and refused to study the Greek and Hebrew which the OT and NT writes used. Sorry if you are offended by the truth, but just because your CULT calls itself something does NOT make it so!!!

I'll stick with the Holy Spirit as my guide! Jesus made promises and I believe Him, not some guy in a fancy gown.

I would quote the Scriptures referencing all of the above, but that are already posted over and over, and the Romanists cling bitterly to the lies!

[Salvation]

**Y’all do that**

All Catholics do what?

How can you put all Catholics in one bucket/category? It just doesn’t work like that.

[sitetest]

At St. Paul’s in Cambridge, MA, my future daughter-in-law was received into the Church this Saturday Vigil. My son was her sponsor.

[daniel1212]

You did exactly as I wrote you would.

Since that is another accusation that you fail to show, then grabbing a "cold one" is not surprising. Altered senses go together with converting to Rome, which i am sorry to see you choose.

[daniel1212]

I think that is the longest sentence that I have ever seen!!!

Yes, it is long, but only one, and not complex, which could easily be split up (next time maybe). And as you might know, i usually write with many short paragraphs.

But as a RC you should be used to long sentences. Just one of the many examples of the plethora of papal prolixity, is an encyclical (QUADRAGESIMO ANNO, POPE PIUS Xl ,MAY 15, 1931) of over 20,000 words, with more than one paragraph of over 400 words, and at least one sentence of over 90 words!

Still, WP says, "Jonathan Coe's The Rotters' Club appears to hold the record at 13,955 words."