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Catholic Church ‘Will Pay Price’ for Stance on Gay Marriage [Ireland]
The Irish Times ^ | 4/11/15 | Colin Gleeson

Posted on 04/13/2015 8:26:45 AM PDT by marshmallow

Bishop tells TCD conference that gay rights is ‘the justice issue of our time’

A conference discussing the religious case for marriage equality has heard there will be “a price to be paid” by the Catholic Church for its stance in relation to the upcoming referendum.

Marriage Equality: The Religious Case for a Yes Vote took place on Saturday and was hosted by Faith in Marriage Equality at the school of ecumenics, Trinity College, Dublin.

Sociologist Dr Richard O’Leary told the conference there was a danger of a “smaller, more anti-gay” church emerging from the public debate in relation to the referendum.

“I predict there will be a price to be paid by the Catholic Church after this referendum,” he said. “Because of the negative stance taken by the bishops, the church as an institution could emerge as a smaller, more anti-gay, more conservative denomination. Some of the bishops might be satisfied with that outcome, but many people might feel that it would be a regrettable and avoidable outcome.”

Church of Ireland bishop of Cashel, Ferns & Ossory Michael Burrows said he was supporting a yes vote in the referendum and referred to gay rights as “the great justice issue of our time”.

(Excerpt) Read more at irishtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; ssm
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1 posted on 04/13/2015 8:26:45 AM PDT by marshmallow
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Because of the negative stance taken by the bishops, the church as an institution could emerge as a smaller, more anti-gay, more conservative denomination.

That would be a good thing.

2 posted on 04/13/2015 8:30:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: marshmallow

We’re all homos now.


3 posted on 04/13/2015 8:31:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and th<uere is no one the<ire to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: marshmallow

I don’t know, but Sodom and Gomorra come to mind. And, that is in the Bible, at least my Bible. And, words mean things.


4 posted on 04/13/2015 8:31:31 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: marshmallow

Yup, they surely will should they adapt gay marriage.

The price will be another split in the church.

Doesn’t much matter, does it?

After all, our “Catholic” university leadership has demonstrated that they have the morals of a Clinton, and the vatican has repeatedly shown that they have a “nothing to see here, move along, move along” attitude towards child-boinking priests.

Perhaps this will be good, one of the “splits” may actually be the Catholic church I remember, and I’ll again become a member.


5 posted on 04/13/2015 8:31:50 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: marshmallow

Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick


6 posted on 04/13/2015 8:32:03 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Parmy

It’s Ireland, it would be Sodom and Glocca-morra


7 posted on 04/13/2015 8:34:05 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: marshmallow

Riiiiiight. And in Aristotle’s day the justice issue du jour was pederasty. How’d that work out for Greece? 2500 years later and they’re hoping to get booted out of the Euro so they can manipulate their own currency again and pray that some other country which actually has influence takes up its cause as the permanent host of the summer Olympics.


8 posted on 04/13/2015 8:34:11 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: Parmy

Yes. There is always a price to be payed for choices. I prefer to try to follow Christ. There is a price for that choice.


9 posted on 04/13/2015 8:34:12 AM PDT by exnavy (Freedom is not free.)
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I prefer to try to follow Christ. There is a price for that choice.

Luke 9:
23And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 24For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. 25For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away? 26For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels. 27But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.

10 posted on 04/13/2015 8:38:01 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: dfwgator
That would be a good thing.

Beat me to it.
The Gospel is open to all, but the message should never be watered down. In the end, 'dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie' will be excluded from the City of Life.

Ecclesiastes 10:1a Dead flies cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savour ...

11 posted on 04/13/2015 8:39:10 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: exnavy

And, it’s not like the Irish church is running over with attendance right now. Primarily because homosexual pedophiles were allowed into the priesthood in the past. Maybe even yet.


12 posted on 04/13/2015 8:39:42 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: marshmallow

Liberal Prots telling Catholics what to do, sort of like Democrats telling Republicans who to nominate.


13 posted on 04/13/2015 8:40:26 AM PDT by Campion
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“I predict there will be a price to be paid by the Catholic Church after this referendum,”

Either way, the Catholic Church will pay a price for their choices. It is far better to pay a worldly price for obeying God than to pay the eternal price for willfully disobeying God.

Mark 9:42 - And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

Telling our little ones that it's okay to disobey the Bible's infallible guidance on sexual activity (or on anything else), in a futile effort to placate the far left fringe, strikes me as a supremely bad idea. Our kids will fall short regardless of what we teach, but they will know right from wrong and the importance of putting God's will ahead of their own if we do our job, and we owe that to our children.

14 posted on 04/13/2015 8:41:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: marshmallow

Sounds like God is sorting the sheep from the goats.


15 posted on 04/13/2015 8:42:17 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: marshmallow
a “smaller, more anti-gay” church emerging

And the problem is?

16 posted on 04/13/2015 8:45:03 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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It’s Ireland, it would be Sodom and Glocca-morra

Now that's funny.

17 posted on 04/13/2015 8:46:01 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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To: marshmallow

This is a preview of the obvious next step: going after churches that refuse to perform gay weddings. The Catholic Church is going to be the big target. But all churches will be indicted. Many will cave in.

The hammer will be the removal of tax exemption for any organization that “discriminates”.

You heard it here first.


18 posted on 04/13/2015 8:48:12 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: marshmallow

The Church of Ireland Bishop Michael Burrows MUST be GAY!!! What the HELL has happened to these Protestant sects that they are so Pro-ANAL SEX??


19 posted on 04/13/2015 8:49:07 AM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: marshmallow
Fight the Homo-Fascists.


20 posted on 04/13/2015 8:49:25 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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