Just please do not ordain them or marry them to one another.
"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"
Posted on 04/07/2015 5:36:23 PM PDT by ebb tide
"The Pope and the transsexual", is how the media similarly described the Holy Thursday liturgy of Pope Francis in the Roman prison Regina Coeli. On the first day of the Triduum Paschale, the Pope again followed his practice of having deserted the liturgically provided cathedral church of Rome and went to the "margins".
This year the Pope visited the Roman prison Regina Coeli. He washed the feet of male and female prisoners and celebrated in the "Lord's Supper" in the prison hall.
Vatican Television rendered images all over the world
Among the prisoners, whose feet the Pope washed, there was also a transsexual. He then also received Holy Communion from another priest. The Pope's visit was accompanied by numerous television cameras that transmitted the Liturgy on Vatican Television and on other television stations around the world.
The sight was for pious Catholic, and perhaps unbelievers, a scandal. "At first glance", the most famous of Catholic bloggers, Francisco Fernández de la Cigoña did not make it out. De la Cigoña is known for his direct language and has already even criticized Pope Francis "with respect for his office and his dignity."
In prison one meets the prisoners
"The Pope has celebrated the Last Supper in prison. There are even murderers, robbers, pedophiles, cheaters, rapists, prostitutes ... " The Pope could not count on anything else "and we could expect nothing less in a prison."
"This time it was just a transsexual offender. Is it worse than a pedophile, rapist or murderer? Innocent convicts are rarely found in a prison," said de la Cigoña. The Church doesn't go on the Penal Code, but the soul of man. " The transsexual has been excommunicated? Can they not be pardoned for sin? Even a transsexual can become a saint."
Transsexuals are not the problem, but the impression
"It has even me, a little astonished," said de la Cigoña, "that one of the persons whom the Pope washed in prison, is a transsexual." But Jesus washed the feet of Judas Iscariot. The problem was not that person or other offenders. The question is whether those who were invited for Communion, were in a state of grace. However, the Church doesn't require a statement of confession. Why would they need one in a prison?
Precisely because of this connection: penitence, confession, contrition, forgiveness are not conditions for receiving Holy Communion and even faithful Catholics often are familiar with the scandal of the offense of images from prison that were carried into all the world. The Church has helped sinners at all times. She has done well, not to broadcast certain things out loud. Not to excite or give offense, but to avoid confusion. "We do not know what happened in the prison. But the wrong impression, however, should always be avoided: all were able to unconditionally receive the Lord."
We are in a period in which the gender ideology and the homosexualization are imposed by force, nor is this a question of whether there was an accidental or deliberate play with gestures and pictures. Someone had chosen those who were to be admitted to the washing of the feet, like two years ago someone had selected prisoners of various religions in youth prison in Rome. It is difficult to accept that it was done without consultation with the Vatican.
WWJD ?
Some people have outgrown that silly acronym. Some, obviously haven’t.
Whose feet did Jesus wash on Holy Thursday? Tax collectors, prostitutes, sodomites, Pilate, Caiphas...?
“Some people have outgrown that silly acronym. Some, obviously haven’t.”
It is a silly “acronym” but not a silly point. Christ is our model. CCC 520 “In all of his life Jesus presents himself as our model. He is “the perfect man”, who invites us to become his disciples and follow him. In humbling himself, he has given us an example to imitate, through his prayer he draws us to pray, and by his poverty he calls us to accept freely the privation and persecutions that may come our way.”
“Whose feet did Jesus wash on Holy Thursday?”
The Apostles. So are you saying the Pope can only wash the feet of Apostles? Gee, do they have to be circumcised Jews too?
“Tax collectors, prostitutes, sodomites, Pilate, Caiphas...?”
Jesus died for everyone didn’t He?
Humble Jorge can wash the feet of anyone, any day of the year; but He doesn’t do it. Does he?
“Humble Jorge can wash the feet of anyone, any day of the year; but He doesn’t do it. Does he?”
He did it Thursday.
You originally asked the juvenile question, “WWJD”.
We already know what Jesus did on Holy Thursday. He washed the feet of his disciples (all male) the night before His Crucifixion.
Why does some narcissistic pope, with an ego bigger than Obama’s, ignore the example of Jesus, his 265 predecessors and canon law and “do his own thing” in front of cameras brought into the prison?
Francis has the power to change canon law regarding Holy Thursday ceremonies, specifically the restriction to “viri” only. He has not done so. Rather he choses to openly violate canon law.
Why would he do so, unless he intends to encourage all Catholic prelates to ignore canon law? Perhaps so they wink and give Holy Communion to adulterers, sodomites, etc?
But Jesus didn’t call a for lottery pick of whose feet He would wash. Or did He?
The Pope is 100% behind this “transgender” nonsense, based on the thing he did earlier this year where he brought a woman who thought she was becoming a man to visit him in the Vatican after she got upset because her priest had told her (quite rightly) that she was being tempted by Satan.
Rather than trying to help these poor people, many of whom commit suicide or even try to reverse the process and go back to their actual sex after a few years, he is just blandly nodding his silly head because he knows this will get him worshipped by the press, since they regard this as absolutely the least Christian and therefore coolest thing on earth. And for goodness sake, we wouldn’t want the Pope not to be cool in the eyes of the media...
That said, the whole point of the footwashing was for the boss (Jesus) to be serving the underlings (the Apostles, representing the future bishops and their delegates, the priests). These staged photo-ops where the boss can preen and boast about how wonderful and charitable he is to the little people are somewhat outside of the original plan, I suspect.
Of course he did it. He did it in front of cameras as a publicity stunt.
However, Jesus Chris did otherwise; just as all of Francis' predecessors have.
Chris = Christ
Did He not wash Judas’ feet?
All men are sinners. Are they not, even Peter, the first Pope?
Judas was a disciple; the transgenders, females, muslims, etc: they are not.
“You originally asked the juvenile question, “WWJD”.”
I asked nothing that was juvenile.
“We already know what Jesus did on Holy Thursday. He washed the feet of his disciples (all male) the night before His Crucifixion.”
And?
“Why does some narcissistic pope, with an ego bigger than Obama’s, ignore the example of Jesus, his 265 predecessors and canon law and “do his own thing” in front of cameras brought into the prison?”
His ego seems no bigger than ... [to say it could be viewed as making it personal].
“Francis has the power to change canon law regarding Holy Thursday ceremonies, specifically the restriction to “viri” only. He has not done so. Rather he choses to openly violate canon law.”
If he has the right to change canon law, then he can do so by his actions. He need not issue a new law or revise a law to do something different. Any canon lawyer can tell you that.
“Why would he do so, unless he intends to encourage all Catholic prelates to ignore canon law?”
It amazes me how you build ridiculous mountains out of things that aren’t even molehills in the field you’re talking about.
“Perhaps so they wink and give Holy Communion to adulterers, sodomites, etc?”
Like I said, it amazes me how you build ridiculous mountains out of things that aren’t even molehills in the field you’re talking about.
“But Jesus didn’t call a for lottery pick of whose feet He would wash. Or did He?”
He chose those He chose. There were hundreds of prisoners in the prison Pope Francis went to. The prison used a lottery for those the pope would eat with. I have no idea how the people whose feet were washed were chosen. It doesn’t really matter anyway how they were chosen.
WWJD?
“Of course he did it. He did it in front of cameras as a publicity stunt.”
It was part of the Maundy Thursday liturgical celebrations. If it was filmed, what of it? I guess Jesus only did things in secret? No, He often did things very much in public.
“However, Jesus Chris did otherwise; just as all of Francis’ predecessors have.”
Actually all of Francis’ predecessors did the foot washing IN PUBLIC IN CHURCH. http://www.wakeforestcatholic.com/photos/80590 Jesus did it behind closed doors where only His disciples could be. Are you saying the pope should then do it in secret only?
Once again, you misunderstood.
How many of Francis’ predecessors have washed the feet of a woman, or of a muslim, or a non-Catholic outside a Catholic church during a Holy Thursday service?
Only a huge ego would drive a prelate to degrade Holy Thursday like Francis has once again done just for a publicity stunt.
Not so. His unlawful actions have not changed the law, because he has not declared the law changed, which is his perogative.
Any canon lawyer can tell you that.
Foolish nonsense.
Here's what a canon lawyer says about it:
A pope’s ignoring of a law is not an abrogation of the law but, especially where his action reverberated around the world, it seems to render the law moot. For the sake of good order, then, the Mandatum rubrics should be modified to permit the washing of women’s feet or, perhaps upon the advice of Scriptural and theological experts, the symbolism of apostolic ministry asserted by some to be contained in the rite should be articulated and the rule reiterated. What is not good is to leave a crystal clear law on the books but show no intention of expecting anyone to follow it. That damages the effectiveness of law across the board.
Edward Peters
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