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Will you be celebrating Easter, as well as celebrating the Assumption of Mary into heaven bodily?
3/28/2015 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 03/28/2015 12:18:26 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

On Easter Day (April 5th, 2015), faithful Christians will celebrate the resurrection of Jesus bodily from death.

Later on this year, faithful Christians will also (on August 15th, 2015) celebrate the resurrection of Mary the mother of Jesus (before her body could see decay) and her Assumption into heaven.

With the shows on CNN (Finding Jesus: Faith, Fact and Forgery) and O'Reilly's book, "Killing Jesus" on television (both this Sunday), there seems to be an uptick in the interest on the life of Jesus, the Apostles and early followers of Jesus - as well as Mary's role, too.


TOPICS: Current Events; Ecumenism; General Discusssion; History; Mainline Protestant; Orthodox Christian; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology; Worship
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Then you need to scroll by and find other threads more suited to your taste. It’s really that simple.


121 posted on 03/29/2015 12:36:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

There are many Bible, but one faith - in Jesus Christ.

As the scriptures say: “There is one Lord [Jesus Christ], one faith [in Jesus Christ] ... one God and Father of all.”

That is what it comes down to. There are many Bibles, but as long as one puts their faith in Jesus, it really doesn’t matter what Bible [Protestant, catholic, Greek Orthodox, etcetera) you adhere to.


122 posted on 03/29/2015 12:40:19 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Oops, meant to say “many Bibles.”


123 posted on 03/29/2015 12:41:00 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Kandy Atz

So you believe that the Bible is true and/or inspired of God? I do as well, but I base it on faith.

How do you know the Bible is true or the scripture you gave is true? Because that scripture says what it says or other scriptures say the Bible is true? How then do you know that the scriptures are true or that the scripture you gave is true? Because it is in the Bible?

If you said yes to the last part, that is basing your argument on circular reasoning, which ultimately proves nothing.


124 posted on 03/29/2015 12:44:25 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

No.

YHWH provided His Holy Days, which all celebrate Yeshua. I will keep HIS feasts.


125 posted on 03/29/2015 12:48:27 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Salvation
Good point.

Many translations, but each of the following 3/4 Bibles are different from each other.

The earliest Protestant Bible had 73 books, but it now has 66 books.

The Catholic Bible has 73 books.

The Ethiopian Bible has 81 books and I believe the Eastern Orthodox Bible has a few more books than the Catholic Bible but not as many as the Ethiopian Bible.

126 posted on 03/29/2015 12:49:17 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: MamaB
...."I will celebrate Jesus’s resurrection. The other is a false belief".....

There is ONLY ONE Savior who shed HIS blood for our sins. ...

Any religion that teaches otherwise and celebrates any another as part of His work of redemption for us is a false religion masquerading as something it isn't.


127 posted on 03/29/2015 12:51:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: free_life

The Catholic Church has Oral Tradition along with the Bible and Protestants have Sola Scriptura. But Luther, the ringleader in the Protestant Reformation, had certain beliefs that could only be found vis-à-vis Oral Tradition.

He didn’t entirely reject Oral Tradition, you appear to have done this, and so we each have our own.

I recognize that there are many Bibles, but “One Lord [Jesus Christ], one faith [in Jesus Christ]... one God and Father of all.”

In the end, I am not sold on Mary ascending to heaven bodily, but I do recognize that as long as we all put our faith in Jesus Christ that is really all that matters -— given that there are many Bibles that have more or less books than others, the earliest Protestant Bible had the Deuterocanonical books in them, there is Oral Tradition of more than one Christian sort in the world, and as long as you put your faith and trust in Jesus, it really doesn’t matter if someone believes that John had five legs, or if some preacher in the back woods believes that we are going to have shacks and cane polls to fish from in heaven or if the cross came out of the tomb walking and talking and Jesus’ head reached all the way into the clouds above.


128 posted on 03/29/2015 12:57:38 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Will you be celebrating Easter, as well as celebrating the Assumption of Mary into heaven bodily?

I'll celebrate what's Scriptural.

So in the words of Buckaroo Banzai, "Yes on one and no on two."

129 posted on 03/29/2015 12:59:54 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
...."other Christians have faith in the scriptures along with the Oral Tradition"....

This is what happens when another body of teachings are made equal with what God has spoken.

Jesus made it clear that the Bible was in a class of its own, exalted above 'all' religious traditions..... He rebuked the Pharisees not because they didn’t understand tradition, but for not accepting Scripture as the ultimate authority...... They negated the final authority the Word of God BY their religious traditions..... Their tradition made the word of God to have no effect. (Mk.7)...For centuries the Catholic church stopped the people from reading the word and had them obey their traditions instead.

......The Bible emphatically condemns the use of tradition as a source of authority because whenever tradition is set up alongside of Scripture, it eventually competes for the greater position and replaces it...... It then is used to reinterpret Scripture...... This is what happened to Judaism in the days of Christ, and this is what has happened in the Roman Catholic Church. ...

The Bible no longer was their source for God. Mans opinions eventually replaced the apostles teachings, rituals replaced the substance and darkness fell over the land....

No one can trace oral tradition back to 'its source', so we can never be sure of its accuracy. Oral tradition becomes subject to the very leaders that gave it and we have to take their word for its accuracy.

The Pharisee’s claimed they alone had the right to interpret and enforce scripture, and that is when everything went wrong..... What the Catholic Church has done is require its members to listen to the Church who will tell them what they are to follow and what the word says..... They then become the sole interpreter of what God said...

.... On the contrary Jesus said He would give each believer the Holy Spirit who is the author of the word, to have us understand what was written (Jn. 2:20-21). (Exerts from Let us Reason)

130 posted on 03/29/2015 1:07:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
....”it really doesn’t matter what Bible [Protestant, catholic, Greek Orthodox, etcetera) you ADHERE to”....

Sure it matters for there are as many false Bibles and additions to these that are out there.

Examples:

Jehovah witnesses Bible and the additions to the Mormon Bible.

So you are wrong...it does matter what Bible one uses for the truth.

131 posted on 03/29/2015 1:12:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Jesus appeared to the disciples in person after His resurrection...and they wrote about it in vivid detail. And their character and reputations stand good for it.

The account of it reads like it was yesterday.

132 posted on 03/29/2015 1:36:11 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Do you believe the Bible to be inspired?

One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is discernment...discernment of spirits.

Tell me that when you read the Scriptures, Old and New, you don't discern the Holy Spirit's hand in it?

133 posted on 03/29/2015 1:39:06 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: caww

You are using Conflation and comparing apples to oranges.

Mormons believe there are a plethora of Divine beings beyond Jesus, the Father and Holy Spirit.

As I have said, the scriptures say there is “One Lord [Jesus Christ], one faith [in Jesus Christ], one baptism [into the Holy Spirit], one God and Father of all.” The Trinity is shown here, and Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons don’t go entirely along with this, but....

Greek Orthodox, Catholics, Ethiopic Christians and Protestants do go by the above scripture which places them in an entirely different class than Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormons.

At least three different, and possibly four different Bibles, but each of these, be they RC’s, Prots, EO’s or Ethiopic’s place their faith in Jesus quite differently than Mormons or Jehovah’s Witness, and still have their own Bibles.


134 posted on 03/29/2015 1:43:18 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Mary is not divine, nor is she sinless. She is merely an obedient woman who answered God’s call. If her assumption was not in the Bible, then it didn’t happen.


135 posted on 03/29/2015 1:50:22 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You are attempting to understand with your reasoning something that is spiritually discerned. The answer to your question is REVELATION versus INFORMATION, or the spiritual versus the natural man.

I could read hundreds of religious books, even Christian books (and I have), and receive little spiritual benefit. God’s Word is different, its spiritual milk full of revelation and wisdom that is fuel for growth. Its alive and still speaking to each and every generation with ears to hear.

What some label as faith is more likely mental assent. Faith must be based ON something. It is in your spirit, not your head (or senses). As Paul writes in Hebrews 11.

Hebrews 11:1 (AMP)
1 NOW FAITH is the assurance (the confirmation, the title deed) of the things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses].

He then gives you example after example of men who heard, believed, and acted on God’s Word. Not just Logos, but the Rhema. Faith comes from hearing the Word and receiving the revelation from that same Word. (Romans 10:17)

I don’t think the Bible is the Word of God. I am not wishing, hoping, or exercising “blind faith” that His Word is Truth. I KNOW its Truth. I KNOW that God cannot lie and His Word will never fail. I know that every word, verse, passage, is loaded with revelation and wisdom, and even if I read it 50 times without revelation, at the perfect moment, the Holy Spirit will reveal it to my spirit.


136 posted on 03/29/2015 1:53:18 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I do not need you to school me in matters of Religions...nor most others who engage on these threads....

But as is customary, and which catholics often do, is posting with their endless rounds of unsubstantial information and clutter to hide behind their failure to see things as they are rather than how they want them to be.

I'll stand on what I wrote....false religions are just that...teachers of falsehood no matter if you call them oranges or apples......it's deviation from the truth.

137 posted on 03/29/2015 1:54:38 PM PDT by caww
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To: El Cid
I get the impression that this post was intended to stir up trouble, and promote bickering.

Trouble and bickering? How unlike the home life of our own dear forum.

138 posted on 03/29/2015 2:50:43 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
It all comes down to faith...

Not 'all' of it...

139 posted on 03/29/2015 3:37:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
These endless discussions show up anytime I am on the site.

Must be your magnetic personality!!

140 posted on 03/29/2015 3:38:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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