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Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
Proclaiming the Gospel ^ | March 18,2015 | Mike Gendron

Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I think it is possible to be both a Catholic and a Bible believing Christian.

Of course! It is ignorant protestants who have made a distinction, not us. What are the authorities of the Church? The Deposit of Faith (big "T" Tradition), Scripture, and the Magisterial teaching through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Without the Bible, there is no Church. Without the Church, we would not have the Canon of Scripture. We are Bible-believing people.

I answered your other challenges on another thread. I invite you to my comments there rather than repeating myself here.

21 posted on 03/18/2015 7:27:01 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Resettozero

No I mean the “the”. I’m not proposing you be strung up for it, I think people write the way they do for a reason so I’m curious about why you drop the “the”.


22 posted on 03/18/2015 7:27:18 AM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: pgyanke

Thanks. Also I neglected one other Catholic practice I disagree with: While the Bible does state you must confess your sins, I have never found any requirement that you must confess only to a priest.


23 posted on 03/18/2015 7:29:31 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I think it is possible to be both a Catholic and a Bible believing Christian. I’m sure many will disagree. Too bad. I’m staying put!

Yes, but only until the point of decision is reached, and it HAS to come for a Bible-believing Christian.

Ultimately, one must choose between their love of the Catholic Church (or any organization on planet Earth) or their love for the Lord Jesus Christ alone, instead of mixing the two together and adding other ingredients to the stew.
24 posted on 03/18/2015 7:29:33 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Legatus

I answered your question. Please read my reply again.


25 posted on 03/18/2015 7:30:22 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: RnMomof7

Get a life.


26 posted on 03/18/2015 7:30:58 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: pgyanke; RnMomof7
>>our adoption into God's Family through participation with Christ's Bride, the Church.<<

There's just one more example of the Catholic Church usurping for power. We aren't adopted into God's family "through participation with the church". We are adopted as a child of God by faith in Christ. It's through that adoption that we become part of the ekklesia of Christ.

>>In this offering, we offer the only acceptable sacrifice, participation in the once-for-all sacrifice of Christ.<<

There now remains no more "offering". Christ offered "once for all" not to be repeated or "participated in". The mass is nothing more than a denial if the "once for all" sufficiency of the sacrifice of Christ.

27 posted on 03/18/2015 7:32:13 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: safeasthebanks

She’s had SEVEN kids and you tell her to get a life?


28 posted on 03/18/2015 7:32:43 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
I answered your question. Please read my reply again.

I've read it again, I still don't understand what you're trying to communicate. Please elaborate.

29 posted on 03/18/2015 7:33:24 AM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Resettozero

My phrasing is my phrasing.

To be Roman Catholic IS to follow Christ and no other.


30 posted on 03/18/2015 7:33:49 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: Resettozero

Uh, it’s just an expression, sweetie pie. One that probably applies to you as well.


31 posted on 03/18/2015 7:34:23 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Also I neglected one other Catholic practice I disagree with: While the Bible does state you must confess your sins, I have never found any requirement that you must confess only to a priest.

Answered.

32 posted on 03/18/2015 7:35:28 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke

“You simply stop up your ears and refuse to engage the conversation with anything but condescension.”

Yet in terms of making an argument you restate as a fact—”Some sins will be atoned in the life to come before our entrance to the banquet”—what the author argues is unbelief in the finished work of Christ.

Your ears are just as closed, you heard nothing from him or Rnmomof7 that would dent your own conception of salvation as still needing completion (vs. being “finished”).

We ALL stop up our ears in this sense, pgyanke. I agree with the author, but in a comment above I level the charge of unbelief at Protestants as well. Salvation is free and easy because God offers it for free and delights in the finished work of His Son. The flesh HATES this and will not abide it, and creates costly complexity to replace it.


33 posted on 03/18/2015 7:35:41 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: G Larry
>>No confession of sins,<<

At least not to some paedophile claiming to be a priest.

>>No praying for the dead,<<

Praying for the dead is a pagan practice.

>>No motivation for good works,<<

That's one more example of Catholics not understanding the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

34 posted on 03/18/2015 7:36:26 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
We are adopted as a child of God by faith in Christ. It's through that adoption that we become part of the ekklesia of Christ.

Please tell me how this process of adoption works.

The mass is nothing more than a denial if the "once for all" sufficiency of the sacrifice of Christ.

So says Pope CynicalBear I. After all, it must be so just because you say it is so.

35 posted on 03/18/2015 7:38:51 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Daffy

It’s the Catholic Church and it’s apologists who readily admit they have incorporated paganism.


36 posted on 03/18/2015 7:39:11 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: pgyanke

I read all of those passages. And no where did I find anything in there which requires you confess exclusively to a priest. Please show me just ONE passage which has this requirement.


37 posted on 03/18/2015 7:40:55 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: pgyanke
What was finished? History? Salvation?

Good questions we seem to have an answer for:

Hebrews 10:

5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:

“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me. 6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You had no pleasure. 7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come— In the volume of the book it is written of Me— To do Your will, O God.’”

8 Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), 9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before, 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” 18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.

38 posted on 03/18/2015 7:41:40 AM PDT by redleghunter (In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth (Gen. 1:1))
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To: avenir
Yet in terms of making an argument you restate as a fact—”Some sins will be atoned in the life to come before our entrance to the banquet”—what the author argues is unbelief in the finished work of Christ.

I did quote Scripture for my position in Matt 12:32. It wasn't just my own opinion.

Salvation is free and easy...

Tell that to the martyrs...

... because God offers it for free and delights in the finished work of His Son.

Yet we are the Body of Christ and our work is not finished. It could be that another answer is needed.

39 posted on 03/18/2015 7:42:27 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: G Larry
>>To be Roman Catholic IS to follow Christ and no other.<<

ROFL! And Mary, and the Church, and the Pope!

40 posted on 03/18/2015 7:46:03 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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