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Why Our Children Don’t Think There Are Moral Facts
The New York Times ^ | 3/2/15 | Justin P. McBrayer

Posted on 03/03/2015 4:35:14 PM PST by Faith Presses On

What would you say if you found out that our public schools were teaching children that it is not true that it’s wrong to kill people for fun or cheat on tests? Would you be surprised?

I was. As a philosopher, I already knew that many college-aged students don’t believe in moral facts. While there are no national surveys quantifying this phenomenon, philosophy professors with whom I have spoken suggest that the overwhelming majority of college freshmen in their classrooms view moral claims as mere opinions that are not true or are true only relative to a culture.

What I didn’t know was where this attitude came from. Given the presence of moral relativism in some academic circles, some people might naturally assume that philosophers themselves are to blame...

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A few weeks ago, I learned that students are exposed to this sort of thinking well before crossing the threshold of higher education. When I went to visit my son’s second grade open house, I found a troubling pair of signs hanging over the bulletin board. They read:

Fact: Something that is true about a subject and can be tested or proven.

Opinion: What someone thinks, feels, or believes.

(Excerpt) Read more at mobile.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Skeptics/Seekers
KEYWORDS: arth; commoncore; education; justinmcbrayer; moralabsolutes; moralfacts; morality; moralrelativism; relativism; schools

1 posted on 03/03/2015 4:35:14 PM PST by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

Absolutes, morality, elucidated by the NY Slime? Nonsense.


2 posted on 03/03/2015 4:39:09 PM PST by Fungi (Evolution is piece by piece over billions of years. At what point did a precursor become a human?)
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To: Fungi

Guest writer?

Must be.


3 posted on 03/03/2015 4:40:29 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Faith Presses On

This is how you make it OK for a man to sodomize young boys, people to to kill their children or elderly parents for convenience, and elect a traitor twice for President.


4 posted on 03/03/2015 4:42:32 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy. Cruz, that is. Texas conservative.)
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To: Faith Presses On

I have been homeschooling from the old McGuffy Readers and Bennett’s Book of Virtues. People laugh at the Readers and some of the material is laughable science wise, but nearly every reading has something to do with moral virtue.

Today’s students are hit over the head with finding their own way and question authority, but most in grade school and even high school, heck college, are not ready for such heady thinking, particularly if they have no grounding in any school of thought. It is very difficult to navigate from a moving point. Even if you discover your fixed point is wrong you still have a better reference than the moral relativism that pervades today’s thinking that every point is equally valid.


5 posted on 03/03/2015 4:43:33 PM PST by rey
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To: Faith Presses On

bkmk


6 posted on 03/03/2015 4:46:14 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Faith Presses On

Common core progressive post-modernism. The only reality is what you think, not what you see, hear, touch, smell, or taste. Many kids think Hitler was right.


7 posted on 03/03/2015 4:46:52 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Faith Presses On

I was explaining to my 14 year old the other day and said, this is the right way to do it - he said Dad, there is no right way to do things. I knew that was not “him” speaking it would have been a “teacher”


8 posted on 03/03/2015 4:49:53 PM PST by Jolla
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To: Fungi

Enjoy the comments at the source. Proves the author right.


9 posted on 03/03/2015 4:50:29 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> the overwhelming majority of college freshmen in their classrooms view moral claims as mere opinions that are not true or are true only relative to a culture.


10 posted on 03/03/2015 5:00:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Faith Presses On

This society is building its next generations on sand. When the calamities of life hit these people, they, and the society, will crumble. Of course, we know what Jesus said about this subject in Matthew 7:24: “Whoever listens to my words and does them is like a man who built his house on the rock.” Too many children have never been taught these words, that would strengthen them for the challenges in this life and bless them in the next. Tragic.


11 posted on 03/03/2015 5:17:47 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: txrefugee

It’s only the opinion of Jesus, don’t you know.


12 posted on 03/03/2015 5:31:28 PM PST by Misterioso (Islam: It's them or us.)
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To: Faith Presses On; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ..

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

13 posted on 03/03/2015 6:14:02 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Faith Presses On
Thanks for finding this and taking the time to post it. I know this has only a few back-comments, but I hope that is just because many have read and agree. For sure I will send the link on to my friends and family.

The nugget I take out of this is that one clear goal of the public school syllabus is to deliberately deconstruct any attempt to train children in discerning both good and evil.

(That of course is the reason why access of parents to observe the process is blocked, and students are being encouraged to discredit parental moral training.)

14 posted on 03/03/2015 8:02:05 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Faith Presses On
Where does he think the teachers come from, Mars?

They are regurgitating to their students what they were taught in college.

15 posted on 03/03/2015 8:07:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: rey
All things must pass - even the degenerate state of our government. How it will pass is the question.

Homeschooling, catholics schools, and christian schools shield kids from the nightmare of public schools.

16 posted on 03/04/2015 3:03:24 AM PST by x_plus_one
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To: Faith Presses On

Most children have a very good moral sense. There world is full of right and wrong based on what is best for their community and on personal moral conviction. I guess nipping that in the bud is now seen as an essential part of early education.


17 posted on 03/04/2015 10:16:04 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

I meant “their” sorry for the brain fart.


18 posted on 03/04/2015 10:17:33 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Faith Presses On

bump


19 posted on 03/04/2015 6:29:18 PM PST by wintertime
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