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Why Catholics Can’t Sing And The Crisis Of Catholic Education
Patheos ^ | March 2, 2015 | Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry

Posted on 03/02/2015 8:03:50 AM PST by Alex Murphy

First Things has a great little post by a dejected Lutheran convert about how Catholic liturgical singing is like “plaintive squeaks from depressed marmosets.”

This is a permanent pet peeve of mine.

And yes, this is something parish priests should do more about. You know the phenomenon of how a church will be crowded–except the two front pews. I knew a priest who often wouldn’t start Mass until those pews were filled. He would go out in front before Mass and ask people to move to the first pews. One of the few 70s-style liturgical tics I wouldn’t mind at all would be for the priest to go “Sing it! Can’t hear you!” etc. during the entrance & exit hymns for a few weeks until everyone is trained to actually sing.

One additional failure I would like to point to is the failure of Catholic schools. Catholic school all my life–I was never taught how to sing. If the liturgy is “the source and summit of the Christian life” and if we are beckoned to “active participation” then shouldn’t singing be something that is as important to teach as the Catechism? (Yeah, yeah, we don’t teach the Catechism either, you’re right.)

But it actually goes even deeper than that. The great failure of Catholic schools, going back to the 19th century, is that they have swallowed wholesale the erroneous Cartesian-Lockean metaphysical view of human nature, which is the master framework of modern schooling. The mind and the body are separate, so classrooms have chairs and desks so that the body can be turned off while the mind works. Children are blank slates on which knowledge is imparted by the teacher. And finally, education is about the imparting of abstract knowledge, not a mystagogic participation of the whole person in the true, the good and the beautiful. (This excellent chapter (PDF) by Prof Angeline S. Lillard does a great job of laying out the disaster of the Modern vision of education.)

When we talk about how Catholic schools should be different from secular schools, we talk about all the great treasures of classical learning that we should impart–Augustine, Dante, Aquinas–, and amen to that. But we should also talk about how the ideal Catholic school should also stand out by its commitment to art and beauty, which is also as Catholic as anything else.


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To: Tax-chick
One of the bad things about the Internet is that every self-absorbed yutz who thinks he’s better than others also seems to believe he’s a writer.

Amen.

21 posted on 03/02/2015 9:43:24 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Alex Murphy

The Catholic elementary school I went to had a music class we went to once or twice a week. Then for the school Mass on Fridays they rotated through the grades each week on who helped with everything and did the choir. For Sunday Mass they had a choir that did all the songs.

And I never liked it. Part of why I don’t like going to Church is because of the rather annoying music (and my church at least plays normal songs. St. Rita’s has a full-retard rock band for their Masses..). I need to try to find a decent Latin Mass somewhere in Dallas area.. with proper Gregorian chant, and nothing else.


22 posted on 03/02/2015 10:05:43 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Salvation

My parish sings. I can sing. So there. :)


23 posted on 03/02/2015 10:10:14 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Alex Murphy

My parish has a new adult/kids choir director and she LOVES and I MEAN LOVES beloved legendary Christian hymms such as “The Old Rugged Cross,” “Near The Cross”, “Just As I Am”, etc. Not surprised.


24 posted on 03/02/2015 10:32:12 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

LOL!


25 posted on 03/02/2015 10:38:04 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Do you know why Episcopalians can’t play chess?


26 posted on 03/02/2015 11:14:57 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper
Do you know why Episcopalians can’t play chess?

Cause their Bishops can only move to the left?


27 posted on 03/02/2015 11:25:58 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog; tbpiper
"Do you know why Episcopalians can’t play chess?"

Cause their Bishops can only move to the left?

Because they don't know how to play without multiple Queens?

28 posted on 03/02/2015 11:31:42 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy; Buckeye McFrog

Mostly it’s because they can’t tell the difference between a bishop and a queen.


29 posted on 03/02/2015 12:59:12 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: Alex Murphy

Get a life.


30 posted on 03/02/2015 1:02:50 PM PST by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: KarlInOhio

Those in our parish who do not have good singing voices are encouraged to sing twice as loud so God can hear them.


31 posted on 03/03/2015 3:02:11 PM PST by rwa265
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