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Russia is The Only Center of Non-Slaved Civilization, Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin Believes
Interfax ^ | 2/25/15

Posted on 02/26/2015 10:08:45 AM PST by marshmallow

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1 posted on 02/26/2015 10:08:45 AM PST by marshmallow
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Russian megalomania survived communism.


2 posted on 02/26/2015 10:12:00 AM PST by vladimir998
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Russian megalomania survived communism.

We could use a dose of renewed pride here, however imperfect. Russia's dissension is largely located in the Muslim lands that it included for a time in the USSR. We're different... Obama is infecting our country all over, rather than in geographically concentrated areas.

3 posted on 02/26/2015 10:18:02 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: marshmallow

No Russian slaves, - when did teh serfs learn of this?

Uhhh - - what of those gulag ‘residents’?


4 posted on 02/26/2015 10:20:58 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: marshmallow

Then why is Russia invading CHRISTIAN countries?


5 posted on 02/26/2015 10:30:35 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: marshmallow

This fool is either delusional or an FSB propagandist.


6 posted on 02/26/2015 10:32:17 AM PST by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Roman 13:12)
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To: marshmallow

Stalin had a few pet priests when he needed them, too. The vast majority of Russian priests got a bullet in the back of the head, but the commies kept a few for emergencies, like “The Great Patriotic War”.


7 posted on 02/26/2015 10:37:04 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: marshmallow

This goes very far back. Before Rome became the official seat of Christendom, there were several contenders that claimed to be the center of Christianity. After Rome fell, and the Roman Empire shifted its seat to Constantinople (now Istanbul), it became the new center of Christianity.

When Constantinople fell in 1453, the Russians assumed that Moscow was to be the new center of Christianity. However, this didn’t happen, and the center switched back to Rome.

And the Russians have been peeved about this since.

Putin revitalized the idea, in a masterstroke, inviting the heads of all the Orthodox Christian churches but the Roman church to come to Moscow for a conclave. And that has got the ball rolling to the idea of Moscow being “the new Rome”.

So I am not surprised at all with the idea that Russia is the only major nation not “enslaved” to socialism or other anti-Christian rule.


8 posted on 02/26/2015 10:38:36 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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I’m Orthodox and have a lot of respect for the Russian Church which survived the most brutal persecution in the history of Christianity and is one of the few churches that is firmly holding its ground against the tide of relativism and secularism as well as Islamo-Facism. But... this guy has a reputation of long standing as a nut job.


9 posted on 02/26/2015 10:43:48 AM PST by NRx
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Indeed. The Russian Church was nearly exterminated by Stalin. We will never know the exact number of martyrs but it is certainly in the multiple millions. For the most part the Church survived underground.


10 posted on 02/26/2015 10:46:38 AM PST by NRx
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Then why is Russia invading CHRISTIAN countries?

Presumably because they aren't Christian ENOUGH.

11 posted on 02/26/2015 10:47:33 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: marshmallow

He might have a more convincing argument if killing unborn people wasn’t legal in the land of the non-slaved.

Freegards


12 posted on 02/26/2015 10:47:48 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

It’s more a question of the center of Orthodox Christianity. From the Orthodox POV, Old Rome fell into schism and heresy over time and the primacy devolved to Constantinople per the canons of the Ecumenical Councils. With the fall of the Roman Empire in 1453 Russia became the largest Orthodox land not under hostile occupation by either the Turks or Catholics. Thus the myth of the Third Rome was born.

I think it is a bunch of baloney, but all countries have their nationalist mythologies. That said, the good father really needs to be reminded that Phyletism is a condemned heresy.


13 posted on 02/26/2015 10:54:18 AM PST by NRx
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Im interested in your take on this. Do you have an opinion as to how much, if any, of the historic Euro/Russo strife is sectarian? Roman Catholic dislike of Orthodoxy?


14 posted on 02/26/2015 10:58:25 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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A lot is cultural and historical. In fairness there is blame to go around. If you look at the history of relations between the Catholic states that bordered the Orthodox countries, it is one of incessant hatred and on again off again war. Poland the Teutonic Knights and the Hapsburg Austro-Hungarians all had a long history of waging war against Orthodox countries and religious repression of their Orthodox minorities. When Russia eventually became a major power and was able to push back, they gave as good as they got. Even today there is a lot of bitterness in the lands that are effectively the border between Catholic and Orthodox Europe.


15 posted on 02/26/2015 11:07:22 AM PST by NRx
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To: marshmallow

What were those serf people?!


16 posted on 02/26/2015 11:21:24 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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What were those serf people?!

They weren't miserable serfs. They were happy-go-lucky smurfs.

17 posted on 02/26/2015 11:26:54 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: marshmallow

He probably means slavery in the sense of being slaves to the Wall-St/London banking cartels....


18 posted on 02/26/2015 12:08:02 PM PST by leopardseal
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Serfdom in Russia was ended a year or two after slavery ended at the close of our own civil war.


19 posted on 02/26/2015 12:08:02 PM PST by leopardseal
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Interesting, I had a conversation with a friend from Croatia that mirrors what you said. You know any decent books or websites that discuss that Orthodox vs Catholic tension?


20 posted on 02/26/2015 12:10:00 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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