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Papacy built on pious fiction and forgery, part 1
Beggars All ^ | May 26, 2010 | John Bugay

Posted on 02/13/2015 5:56:00 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: Elsie
Why yes, I do.

Irenaeus: Against Heresies 3:3:1 [A.D. 189].
101 posted on 02/14/2015 1:03:25 PM PST by hockeyCEO
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To: Elsie
hahah. Thank you so much Elsie!

Have a great St. Valentine's day.
102 posted on 02/14/2015 1:03:25 PM PST by hockeyCEO
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To: metmom

Looks like more than a nerve was touched....

Interesting that once again the ‘victim’ card is played.....remarkable that that in itself is “taught” to catholics. ..rather than be “defenders of the faith” they profess.


103 posted on 02/14/2015 1:03:25 PM PST by caww
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To: CynicalBear

I’ve read posts to no 33 and it’s ALL playing victim or lashing out and not surprisingly attempting to change the topic to something else...not one post defending their position. Perhaps I will meet that along the way.


104 posted on 02/14/2015 1:03:25 PM PST by caww
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To: sasportas

....”Someone has posted on the RF recently, the Roman “house” is built upon a pebble (Peter), the true universal/catholic house is built upon bedrock - Jesus Christ and the word of God (Sola Scriptura).......It’s high time somebody start a series on the false foundation of Romanism. I can think of no subject needed more”.....

Amen!


105 posted on 02/14/2015 1:03:25 PM PST by caww
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To: Salvation

Looks and sounds more like Denominations....calling them “Rites” rather then ‘Sects’ or Denominations doesn’t change the obvious.

For more interesting is the graph doen’s depict Jesus Christ as head...It shows your Church as HEad....quite revealing in itself. Also looks like a “Split” between West and East marked the beginnings of all the various sects which came thereafter.


106 posted on 02/14/2015 1:03:25 PM PST by caww
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To: Elsie

Interesting references....puts a lot to contradiction of what otherwise is so often spoken by catholics today. I tend to think they don’t really understand what they’re being taught...and the vast amounts of information from their past just floods them sufficient to loose the Gospel Message itself.


107 posted on 02/14/2015 1:03:25 PM PST by caww
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To: hockeyCEO

.....”What is the point of dissecting the article further when its opening statements are shown to be so very wrong?”.....

Defending ones beliefs we are called to do....if an article’s statements are wrong to an individual then it’s good present what one believes is accurate....let the debate begin....which IS “the point of dissecting the article”.


108 posted on 02/14/2015 1:03:25 PM PST by caww
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To: x_plus_one
...." If you eliminate the Roman Church, Catholics will just go to Orthodox parishes".....

Perhaps that board needs to be brought out and played among catholics to determine which is accurate and which is not....why the division in the first place since Peter was supposedly the basic foundation of Roman catholicism why would any move away from that to another version?


109 posted on 02/14/2015 1:03:25 PM PST by caww
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To: RnMomof7
.....”Catholics will say that it is no contradiction that this “immediate” and “perpetual” power nevertheless had to “develop.”......

I thought of Progressive/Liberalss who consitsentnly add or change their mind saying there thoughts and or ideas have... "evolved",.... rather than admit they were/are wrong in the first place.

110 posted on 02/14/2015 1:03:30 PM PST by caww
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To: hockeyCEO; RnMomof7
What is the point of dissecting the article further when its opening statements are shown to be so very wrong?

Shown to be wrong how? All I saw was personal attack against RnMom.

RC's post hit pieces on Protestantism all the time.

If y'all can dish it out, you ought to be able to take it.

And besides, this is really a close examination of what Rome claims. If it's wrong. Prove it.

111 posted on 02/14/2015 1:09:23 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: caww

They think if they impugn the messenger the message goes away.


112 posted on 02/14/2015 1:17:14 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Elsie

The Vatican II Mass devotes too much attention to the Celebrant and the other members of the congregation.


113 posted on 02/14/2015 1:33:06 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: driftless2

Who adds new souls to the church?


114 posted on 02/14/2015 1:44:13 PM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: DuncanWaring

Both can’t be right. Which one is the true Catholic church? Vat2 or SSPX?


115 posted on 02/14/2015 1:47:05 PM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: caww
why the division in the first place since Peter was supposedly the basic foundation of Roman catholicism why would any move away from that to another version?

Protestant history starts with the reformation so you might need to dig a little deeper to learn about the Christian Church.

116 posted on 02/14/2015 2:03:28 PM PST by x_plus_one
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To: Elsie

Noticed they gave him little feet.

Also the case holding his skull is quite prophetic of the TV age. Looks like a circa 1950s TV with rabbit ears.


117 posted on 02/14/2015 2:30:02 PM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: x_plus_one; caww
Protestant history starts with the reformation so you might need to dig a little deeper to learn about the Christian Church.

We did.

It's found right here....

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+1&version=ESV

and here....

http://legacy.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ESV

Scroll down the the bottom and read the books from Romans through the first thee chapters of Revelation.

118 posted on 02/14/2015 2:34:28 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Personal attack? Every statement I've made has been strictly about the article. I don't even know what RnMom has said about the article, so how can I attack her? The article is fair game. Now, however, I do find it personally offensive for you to suggest that my posts are uncivil. Luckily we have a record of the transcript.

I have proven it. It is up to you to show any errors of my rebuttal.
119 posted on 02/14/2015 6:30:49 PM PST by hockeyCEO
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To: DuncanWaring
The Vatican II Mass devotes too much attention to the Celebrant and the other members of the congregation.

oh?

In whose humble opinion?

Why did the V2 guys spend SO much time on something the mere Hoi polloi in the pews can reject at will?

Isn't that kinda like being your own pope?

120 posted on 02/15/2015 2:55:22 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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