Posted on 02/08/2015 6:51:31 PM PST by Coleus
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DR. IAN MURPHY
Former Baptist and Agnostic Dr. Ian Murphy about his faith journey, and how it ultimately lead him home to the Catholic Church. Hosted by Marcus Grodi. |
BTTT!
Once again it doesn’t matter if a person changes churches, what matters if is someone believes in CHRIST and only Christ, not their ‘works’, simply in what He gave us, that we didn’t deserve. Eph 2:8-9, John 3:3!
“Once again it doesn’t matter if a person changes churches,”
It does matter since this guy wasn’t in a Church until he became Catholic. Before that he just belonged to sects - man-made institutions following man-made false gospels.
You can say what you wish, but it DOESN’T matter if that ‘Church’ doesn’t lead to one actually knowing Christ, that can happen either in or outside of ‘Catholic’ or ‘Protestant’ church memberships.
I don’t give a crap about a creed, I care about if one knows Christ, and salvation through Him alone.
If we quote: let’s quote scripture!?: John 3:3
“Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”
John 14:6 “ “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
These say nothing about a ‘Catholic’ Church or a ‘Protestant’ Church..
These say nothing about a ‘Catholic’ Church or a ‘Protestant’ Church..
“You can say what you wish, but it DOESN’T matter if that ‘Church’ doesn’t lead to one actually knowing Christ, that can happen either in or outside of ‘Catholic’ or ‘Protestant’ church memberships.”
You certainly have a point, but it doesn’t change the reality that Christ founded only one Church and no Protestant sect is it.
Frankly, friend. I have Christ, only through His Grace, and by His Word. I have never been Catholic.
Your point isn’t really true, with all due respect.
Eph :8-9
Friend, even belief in Christ is provide by God as a free gift, it’s not of us, or our works, faith comes from Him/.
“Frankly, friend. I have Christ, only through His Grace, and by His Word. I have never been Catholic.”
You could have Jesus more completely, but you would have to get over your apparent presumption first.
“Your point isn’t really true, with all due respect.”
My point is entirely true. And respect for me or you has no impact on the fact that point is true.
Catholics don't have Christ more completely. They think they need to eat Him often or they lose Him. True believers have Christ in them 24/7/365.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
We invite all Catholics to come out of that false religion and put your faith in Christ alone.
I don’t need to have “Jesus more completely”,
when I have Him through His Grace alone, I have him.
Your statement is like saying: “You could have water more wet!”.
It just doesn’t make sense, now if you’re talking about having “more religion” no thanks, I’d rather live by faith, and not worry about religious works (with the purpose that those religious works, sacraments, etc benefit me, that’s just adding a burden onto something which is given by God for free)!
You do notice in that scripture it is said to be a work of God, not of the sinners?!!!
“I don’t need to have “Jesus more completely”,”
Anyone who would say that does.
“Catholics don’t have Christ more completely. They think they need to eat Him often or they lose Him. True believers have Christ in them 24/7/365.”
You then cite St. Paul - who believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. The irony probably is lost on you.
1 Cor 11:27.
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