A gift has to be accepted, leaving it on the table isn’t accepting is it? Seatbelts are optional (conditional?) too. One can believe in the utility of seatbelts in general, but fail to use one. Failure to implement seatbelt use might also find one abruptly meeting the windshield at 50 mph. through my question I thought we were supposed to be talking about believing Christians and not unbelievers? Nobody is forced to do anything including eternal salvation.
It seems as though you brought up the point that people are not OSAS, as I actually believe, “OSAS is a Protestant doctrine. It is not an orthodox Christian doctrine”. Sorry if there was a poor understanding of what you said. I did take it as you intended to say salvation is conditional upon a person’s deeds. I have no time to watch the youtube link at the moment.
Let’s try to get on the same terminology. I take conditional to be something that can be taken away. For that, I made the reference to taking away, or screwing up one’s salvation. What does one do to get saved and remain in that state? Is it not trust & acceptance of the shed blood along with a genuine repentance followed by works?
Again, help me out determining the common ground, if there’s any.
“Let’s try to get on the same terminology. I take conditional to be something that can be taken away.”
No. Not taken away. Lost. There’s a difference.
“For that, I made the reference to taking away, or screwing up one’s salvation. What does one do to get saved and remain in that state?”
You don’t know?
“Is it not trust & acceptance of the shed blood along with a genuine repentance followed by works? Again, help me out determining the common ground, if there’s any.”
Here’s my help for you:
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/JUSTIF.HTM
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/PASTPRES.HTM