Posted on 01/16/2015 8:03:35 AM PST by Salvation
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The last three words represent the fatal problem with this Romanist.
“This is the claim that Scripture alone is the measure of faith and the sole authority for the Christian, that there is no need for a Church and no authority in the Church, that there is only authority in the Scripture.”
How is Scripture the “measure” of faith? No need for a church? Perhaps he’s taking on some form of Protestantism that doesn’t derive from Luther, Calvin, or Knox (or Wesley). Heck, knocking down straw men is easy. Why doesn’t he just accuse Protestants of praying to statues?
I think that dove-tails nicely with James' comments on faith & works.
The last three words represent the fatal problem with this Romanist.
IMO he creates a straw man when he refers to the "Solas" as "solos". But ignorant Catholics will eat this up like cake.
“So it seems clear that Scripture is not meant to be alone. Scripture itself says this in 2 Peter 3:16: our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, also wrote to you, Our Brother Paul speaking of these things [the Last things] as he does in all his letters. In them there are some things hard to understand that the ignorant and unstable distort to their own destruction, just as they do the other scriptures. Hence Scripture itself warns that it is quite possible to misinterpret Scripture.”
This is particularly egregious. For starters, he tells us in this same piece that there was no such thing as Scripture until the 4th Century. How could Paul be talking about Scripture when it didn’t exist for another 300 years? Also, Paul wrote his letters largely to give sound doctrine to the early Church. Why did he have to write them? Was he just noodling some suggestions? Maybe some teachings were flying off course without the much-dreaded Scripture.
And, who would expect a papist to understand Latin? But, you are right, the Tiber Team will line up for more of this folk religion.
Again! Can Catholics never read things in context? If we read both verse 14 and 15 "I am writing you these instructions so that ... you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in Gods household".
How in the world can you promote a verse as proof that truth in found in the church when the verse states that the written letter is instruction for conduct in the church?
I agree the truth is found in the true church, but how do you get from "follow what I write" to "follow what the church says"? They are opposed unless the church follows the written word. And this is the meaning of sola scriptura. The scripture is the rule. The church is to follow the rule. The church is not the rule. The church is not the true church unless it follows the rule.
Are you talking about the words, “The Word of God?”
This should prove interesting. Thanks!
When you say “he” are you referring to God or too Monsignor Pope?
1. Faith alone - Paul said we are saved by faith, not works, lest any man should boast. Paul also warned about evil conduct.
2. Grace alone - an attribute of God
3. Scripture alone - If someone can’t read, they need to be guided by someone who has confidence in scripture. Also, scripture is not to be used for personal interpretation. The church acts as a shepherd, not as an institution that dispenses salvation, as this priest believes. Also, the early Christians relied on the Old Testament.
So beautifully expressed, magnanimous, and with brotherly kindness
James 2: 17-26 ...A stern warning from Saint James
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So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
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Indeed someone might say, You have faith and I have works. Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.
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You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble.
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Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless?
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Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar?
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You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by the works.
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Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness, and he was called the friend of God.
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See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
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And in the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route?
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For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.
You belive in Scripture, correct?
Then why don't you believe this?
John 21: (We'll be using the KJV today to keep things on even footing): "And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen."
The Bible Itself declares that it doesn't contain everything.
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