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Joel Osteen, Gosh . . .
Patheos.com ^ | December 17, 2014 | David Mills

Posted on 12/17/2014 4:32:23 PM PST by Gamecock

Not a shock: megachurch celebrity tv star preacher Joel Osteen doesn’t know the Bible, reports the clever and energetic Tristyn Bloom of The Daily Caller. (The story’s several weeks old but I just saw it so pass it on for those of you who hadn’t.)

In a Monday post to his verified Facebook page, Joel Osteen ministries, read: “God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?’ He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.”

As of Friday afternoon, the post had over 317,000 likes and 52,000 shares.

One normally hesitates to criticize ministers from another tradition, but Joel Osteen perverts Christianity in a way that will keep people from Christ. He preaches a Christianity without a cross. As one commenter put it:

Joel Osteen is a motivational speaker who pretends to be Christian in order to make money. He and his wife live in a multimillion dollar mansion, and in return sell a gospel of false promises, bad theology, and gross consumerism. It is unsurprising that he fails to quote Scripture accurately, because adherence to Scripture has never been a priority of his.

What is truly unfortunate about him and his operation is that through their false teaching they mislead millions. I hope and pray for his repentance, before his final judgment and damnation.

I don’t know about “pretends.” I have no idea what Osteen thinks he’s doing. He does not speak as a Christian preacher but as a motivational speaker who exploits Christian language and Christianity’s continuing cultural authority to bring people (and their donations) in. There’s nothing like the message to the rich young ruler in his preaching, no take up your cross, not even a watch with me.

The Christian life is a constant struggle to move closer to Christ, against the flow of our natures. We’re swimming upstream. With God’s help, making progress, but only because He helps us keep pushing against the current. Osteen offers a pleasant ride on a warm spring day down a wide slow-moving river lying on a well-stocked raft. He presents this as if it were grace and not the easy choice of our fallen natures. “God wants you to do what you want to do” is not the Gospel.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: familybusiness; houston; joelosteen; osteen; televangelist; ybpdln
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1 posted on 12/17/2014 4:32:23 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

All true, and I wish those stupid Osteen “Devotionals” were banned from FR.


2 posted on 12/17/2014 4:39:12 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Why stop there?


3 posted on 12/17/2014 4:40:03 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Gamecock
Interesting that lately Joel Osteen has become a whipping boy for the leftwingers of the mainline as well as the right.

Makes me think maybe he is on to something after all.

4 posted on 12/17/2014 4:42:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

You have hit the nail on the head.


5 posted on 12/17/2014 4:43:51 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: hinckley buzzard

Whatever he is onto it isn’t Jesus.


6 posted on 12/17/2014 4:44:09 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Yes!!! We must ban all happy Christians!!! Prosperous Christians are phony Christians!!! Only sad, struggling Christians can be real Christians!!


7 posted on 12/17/2014 4:44:38 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Gamecock

They are sickening money grubbers!


8 posted on 12/17/2014 4:45:31 PM PST by dforest
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To: hinckley buzzard
Interesting that lately Joel Osteen has become a whipping boy for the leftwingers of the mainline as well as the right. Makes me think maybe he is on to something after all.

WORTH REPEATING! Know idea why all the haters of Osteen on here.

9 posted on 12/17/2014 4:46:50 PM PST by Moleman
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To: Kackikat

Osteen’s quote is a 100% correct concise synopsis of the main idea of the verse. What’s the problem?


10 posted on 12/17/2014 4:46:54 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: Gamecock
This is an "open" thread on the Religion Forum, meaning posters may argue for or against deities, beliefs, religious authorities and yes, even the Salvation Army.

If that type of debate offends you, then ignore the open RF threads altogether and instead post to threads labeled "caucus" "ecumenical" "devotional" or "prayer."

If you feel inundated by pro-Catholicism threads, then feel free to post all the pro-Protestantism threads you'd like.

Finally, if you do not wish to see RF posts, do NOT use the "everything" option on the Free Republic browse option list. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."

71 posted on Saturday, December 13, 2014 10:19:37 AM by Religion Moderator

11 posted on 12/17/2014 4:49:44 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Gamecock

12 posted on 12/17/2014 4:50:35 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Gamecock

13 posted on 12/17/2014 4:51:08 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Moleman

**Know idea**

So you do know!


14 posted on 12/17/2014 4:56:12 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Gamecock; montag813

Romans 14:4
Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.


15 posted on 12/17/2014 4:56:58 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: montag813

As much as I disagree with osteen.....this is FREE REPUBLIC.....not salon.com.


16 posted on 12/17/2014 4:58:31 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Gamecock

How does this guy Osteen fool so many otherwise intelligent people? I don’t get how he pulls it off!


17 posted on 12/17/2014 5:00:36 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Gamecock

An absolute apostate pastor and teacher. In it for the money and nothing else.


18 posted on 12/17/2014 5:01:57 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: Drango

Romans 14:4
Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.


Who exactly is Joel serving?


19 posted on 12/17/2014 5:02:55 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Actually he is showing how large his bank account grew this week.


20 posted on 12/17/2014 5:03:58 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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