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Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?
self | 12-14-14 | ealgeone

Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone

The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; blessedvirginmary; catholic; mary; mystery; mysterybabylon; prayer; rcinventions; vanities; vanity; worship
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To: CynicalBear

CB, if there are games being played with words, it is by those who try to use words not in the bible as if they are in the bible.


2,501 posted on 12/20/2014 6:40:42 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
You don’t get away without explaining that one....4 seasons.

Well, I may not have been a regular on all the episodes.
2,502 posted on 12/20/2014 6:42:13 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Of?


2,503 posted on 12/20/2014 6:43:01 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Of the TV show.


2,504 posted on 12/20/2014 6:43:50 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

:>)

Named?


2,505 posted on 12/20/2014 6:44:32 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Now that I think back, I may not have appeared in seasons 2 or 3.


2,506 posted on 12/20/2014 6:44:46 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: xzins
Named?

I used a fictitious screen name based on my first dog's name and the street I grew up on.
2,507 posted on 12/20/2014 6:46:42 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: xzins

But it wasn’t the same screenname that I use here on FR.


2,508 posted on 12/20/2014 6:48:20 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: xzins

Season 4 was cut short after only three of the thirty-nine episodes scheduled, if memory serves me correctly.


2,509 posted on 12/20/2014 6:51:07 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: metmom

I have learned more than I ever wanted to about Catholics on these threads. I have never seen so much hatred for other groups. Who in the world are they following? It sure isn’t Jesus. Do they really think they are going to heaven with so much hate? Merry Christmas. God bless.


2,510 posted on 12/20/2014 6:54:19 PM PST by MamaB
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To: xzins
Named?

Oh, you mean the name of the TV show! Well, the first season they changed the name of it three or four times before ever running the pilot. Network VPs have to do SOMETHING to earn their keep.
2,511 posted on 12/20/2014 6:54:23 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: xzins

But my memory has been playing tricks on me more and more lately. Maybe that was not I but rather someone else altogether.

I’ve even forgotten the first 300 years of history of the RCC, the OTC.


2,512 posted on 12/20/2014 6:57:45 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

I suspect you are politely requesting anonymity on this one. That’s ok.

(But now it’s a challenge! lol)


2,513 posted on 12/20/2014 6:57:50 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

“So, what about those Methodists and their quadrilateral: scripture, tradition, reason, experience?”

Protestants. They are Protestant in origin, leadership, doctrine, tradition.

“I understand you to be saying that Roman Catholics do not believe that a saved Catholic has to be a believer.”

Your “understanding” then is complete nonsense because I never said anything even remotely like that.

“If you are not saying that, then you affirm ‘sola fide’.”

False. It always amazes me how often Protestants come to completely erroneous conclusions like that. Not affirming the distorted view of salvation you put forward doe snot mean someone believes in another distorted view of salvation you’ve put forward.


2,514 posted on 12/20/2014 6:58:13 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: MamaB; wagglebee; narses; Salvation

I have not seen hate from Roman Catholics. We have the steadfast defenders of their faith, and they are direct, but even those few have never come close to expressing hate toward me.

Then there are those who are dear FRiends, such as wagglebee, narses, and salvation, who will disagree with my theologicalinterpretations, of course, but are good, friendly ambassadors for their cause. They are also huge allies and FRiends in the political realm here on Free Republic.

So, I’ve had no hate directed at me from Roman Catholics.


2,515 posted on 12/20/2014 7:02:45 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Then came...post number 2512.


2,516 posted on 12/20/2014 7:03:14 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: xzins
So, I’ve had no hate directed at me from Roman Catholics.

I'm starting not to like you.

Too nosey.
2,517 posted on 12/20/2014 7:04:30 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: vladimir998

So, you do think that believing is an important doctrinal point?

Good.

You have just affirmed ‘sola fide’.

And ‘methodists’ didn’t even exist during the protest and the reformation. They actually didn’t truly exist until America and the revolution. They weren’t born of any protest against Catholicism; they were born of protest against King George. LOL.


2,518 posted on 12/20/2014 7:05:49 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins; CynicalBear; Resettozero; metmom

“Nope. Veneration means deep respect.”

And just where in Scripture do you see this distinction made, so that one
kneeling before a statue
and praising the entity it represented in the unseen world,
and as having Divine powers and glory,
and making offerings and beseeching such for Heavenly help,
directly accessed by mental prayer,

would simply be regarded as holy “veneration” except by pagans, in contrast to Biblical worship? . Were do you see even one of these actions, except by pagans. And do you really think this absence and contrast constitutes warrant for doctrine? If so, what cult do you belong to?


2,519 posted on 12/20/2014 7:09:04 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: vladimir998
And ‘methodists’ didn’t even exist during the protest and the reformation. They actually didn’t truly exist until America and the revolution. They weren’t born of any protest against Catholicism; they were born of protest against King George. LOL.

You gotta keep both eyes peeled for those old retired proud Army Chaplains, vlad. They blindside you if you let 'em.

And they're nosey.
2,520 posted on 12/20/2014 7:09:16 PM PST by Resettozero
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