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Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?
self | 12-14-14 | ealgeone

Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone

The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; blessedvirginmary; catholic; mary; mystery; mysterybabylon; prayer; rcinventions; vanities; vanity; worship
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To: Grateful2God
It is said that, St. Luke painted a portrait of Our Lady.

DOCTOR Luke? The one that went so many places and times with Paul? Why on earth would he want to paint a picture of Mary? Paul hardly if ever mentioned her.
2,441 posted on 12/20/2014 5:00:28 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: metmom

Wow 2365 and counting. This thread is the FR version of the movie “The Notebook.” :)


2,442 posted on 12/20/2014 5:05:17 PM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
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To: vladimir998

Off topic again.......


2,443 posted on 12/20/2014 5:06:25 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: vladimir998
“To Protestantism False Witness is the principle of propagation. ...Taking things as they are, and judging of them by the long run, one may securely say, that the anti-Catholic Tradition could not be kept alive, would die of exhaustion, without a continual supply of fable.” (John Henry Newman, Lecture 4. True Testimony Insufficient for the Protestant View)

Now that's just funny considering the amount of unsupported doctrine the Catholic church teaches.

2,444 posted on 12/20/2014 5:08:31 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: redleghunter

Nobody will answer it.

They can’t.

Truth is truth and if it changes, it either wasn’t truth before or it isn’t now.

If it wasn’t truth before, then they followed almost 2,000 years of false teachings.

If it isn’t truth now, they are following false teachings now.

Then they have to decide which it is. And on what basis do they do that? Casting lots like picking Matthias? Majority vote?


2,445 posted on 12/20/2014 5:15:00 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone; metmom
>>And I like jello!<<

Nailed to the wall?? :-0

2,446 posted on 12/20/2014 5:20:31 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ealgeone

And Satan says “just use a different word and even if the actions are the same they will never know”.


2,447 posted on 12/20/2014 5:24:53 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: metmom; Syncro
>>Anyone can claim anything and expect others to believe it for no reason.<<

It's the Catholic way.

2,448 posted on 12/20/2014 5:34:49 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: xzins

“But you do see the issue of ‘appearance’ even in your jest.”

No, I don’t. That was the point. It is not about “appearance”. It is about Protestant ignorance. As I have said before, when a Protestant is open to learning the truth he or she usually gets over their ignorance even though the “appearance” doesn’t. Protestant ignorance can be fixed. A misunderstanding over appearance doesn’t mean the appearance needs to be fixed. It means the ignorance needs to be.

“So, we non-Catholics (don’t the Orthodox claim to be ‘Catholic’?”

Are they? First, you say it is about appearance. Now you say it is about what someone claims. Truth then - the actual truth - seems to have no role to play in your post. It’s all just “appearances” and “claims”.

“....in any case, we’re not all out of protestant churches...some of us came about after the reformation.”

If you believe in Protestant doctrines, you’re a Protestant. It doesn’t matter whether your sect was founded in 1520 or 1920 or last week. It’s Protestant if it is based on Protestant doctrines.

“My own, some 200 years later, and then again 200 years after that.)”

Johnny-come-lately Protestants are still Protestants. Truth is still truth.


2,449 posted on 12/20/2014 5:38:21 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Resettozero

“Did he die with a hammer in his hands?”

No, he just died in sanctity. You should be so fortunate.

“Otherwise, so what?”

Otherwise, he is still right even if it might bother you.


2,450 posted on 12/20/2014 5:39:57 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
If you believe in Protestant doctrines, you’re a Protestant. It doesn’t matter whether your sect was founded in 1520 or 1920 or last week. It’s Protestant if it is based on Protestant doctrines.

Is that official RCC doctrine? Or your opinion only.
2,451 posted on 12/20/2014 5:41:27 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: vladimir998
Otherwise, he is still right even if it might bother you.

He was infallible TOO?
2,452 posted on 12/20/2014 5:42:19 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: xzins

“So, we non-Catholics are from a different ‘culture’, and should be granted the kindness of proper translation into our language.”

No. This is Christianity. Learn Christian culture. The problem is not our language. The problem is that your sectarian ghetto has kept kept you ignorant of it.


2,453 posted on 12/20/2014 5:43:57 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: metmom

Nope. Right on topic.


2,454 posted on 12/20/2014 5:44:31 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
No, he just died in sanctity. You should be so fortunate.

Did you just subtly place a curse on me?
2,455 posted on 12/20/2014 5:44:38 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: metmom

“Now that’s just funny considering the amount of unsupported doctrine the Catholic church teaches.”

You say it is unsupported. Protestant anti-Catholic lies are worse than unsupported.


2,456 posted on 12/20/2014 5:45:26 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Resettozero

“Is that official RCC doctrine? Or your opinion only.”

Is it any less true either way?


2,457 posted on 12/20/2014 5:46:36 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
In the Sectarian Ghetto
2,458 posted on 12/20/2014 5:46:55 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: vladimir998
Is it any less true either way?

Yes. A LOT less true EITHER way.
2,459 posted on 12/20/2014 5:47:56 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

“Did you just subtly place a curse on me?”

Do you think being fortunate enough to die in sanctity is a curse? If you’re fortunate enough to meet Christ one day, ask Him about that.


2,460 posted on 12/20/2014 5:48:06 PM PST by vladimir998
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