Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

self | 12-14-14 | ealgeone

[ealgeone]

The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.

[Elsie]

Catholics didn't tell you that, Christ did..."take and eat of this, THIS IS MY BODY"...sounds real clear to me.

You brood of vipers...

[Elsie]

You don't know that.

Look who's talkin'!!!

[Elsie]

The Church teaches that she was assumed body and soul into heaven

It sure does; without a SCRAP of Biblical truth to base it on!

[Elsie]

Recommend you read through the thread..

I sure don't!

They don't call me 'married to Flat Butt' for Nothing!

--Mrs.Elsie(Get off that computer and vacuum the floor!!!)

[Elsie]

You were there?

Sure!

Prove I wasn't!

No; wait. That is a catholic talking point.

Let's say I was there as much as the folks who started the story that Mary was assumed into Heaven were present at her liftoff.

[Elsie]

We are not told to venerate Mary in the Word. Sorry for the typo!

Glad I read ahead fast; as intracranial pressure was beginning to spike!

[Elsie]

We used it on our show goats so the swelling would not be apparent when showing them.

What 'swelling'?

[Elsie]

I used a rag and did not protect my hands but I don’t think it effected me adversely.

While learning to give my goats a shot; I managed to stick myself with the CDT needle.

It didn't hurt too baaaaaadly.

[Elsie]

Character assignation seems to be one of that poster’s anti Christian tactics.

And a REALLY slow learner.

[CynicalBear]

And they forgot to say “oh, unless it’s Jesus blood”. If Catholics wrote that they sure did a sloppy job by leaving things out.

[Elsie]

Just caretakers for a brief moment in time.

AMEN!

I know why GOD put man in a garden!

As a city boy; used to 10,000 sq ft or less, I didn't know the pleasures of working on land until retirement and then moving to 13 acres of woods and grass.

Never, in my wildest dreams early in life; would I have guessed I've end up owning (spoiling) goats!

And ducks, and a chicken and gobs of barn cats!

And 5 departed bunny rabbits.

Then there is the trapping of raccoons, possums and skunks (2 so far) to contend with; with subsequent relocations thereof.

[Elsie]

That they would put this in writing is amazing. That they deny it is even more amazing.

[Elsie]

They do indeed have differences , while i have had a RC tell here me the EOs are not to be called Catholics!

Sound quite MORMON to me!!

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Media Letter   

26 June 2008 — Salt Lake City  (http://newsroom.lds.org/additional-resource/media-letter)

*The following is a letter from Elder Lance B. Wickman, General Counsel of the Church to publishers of major newspapers, TV stations and magazines. It was sent out on Tuesday, June 24, 2008.

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Recent events have focused the media spotlight on a polygamous sect near San Angelo, Texas, calling itself the “Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.” As you probably know, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has absolutely no affiliation with this polygamous sect. Decades ago, the founders of that sect rejected the doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, were excommunicated, and then started their own religion. To the best of our knowledge, no one at the Texas compound has ever been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Unfortunately, however, some of the media coverage of the recent events in Texas has caused members of the public to confuse the doctrines and members of that group and our church. We have received numerous inquiries from confused members of the public who, by listening to less than careful media reports, have come to a grave misunderstanding about our respective doctrines and faith. Based on these media reports many have erroneously concluded that there is some affiliation between the two – or even worse, that they are one and the same.

Over the years, in a careful effort to distinguish itself, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has gone to significant lengths to protect its rights in the name of the church and related matters. Specifically, we have obtained registrations for the name “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” “Mormon,” “Book of Mormon” and related trade and service marks from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and corresponding agencies in a significant number of foreign countries.

We are confident that you are committed to avoiding misleading statements that cause unwarranted confusion and that may disparage or infringe the intellectual property rights discussed above. Accordingly, we respectfully request the following:

1. As reflected in the AP Style Guide, we ask that you and your organization refrain from referring to members of that polygamous sect as “fundamentalist Mormons” or “fundamentalist” members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
2. We ask that, when reporting about this Texas-based polygamous sect or any other polygamous group, you avoid either explicitly or implicitly any inference that these groups are affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
3. On those occasions when it may be necessary in your reporting to refer to the historical practice of plural marriage in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, that you make very clear that the Church does not condone the practice of polygamy and that it has been forbidden in the Church for over one hundred years. Moreover, we absolutely condemn arranged or forced “marriages” of underage girls to anyone under any circumstances.

Stated simply, we would like to be known and recognized for whom we are and what we believe, and not be inaccurately associated with beliefs and practices that we condemn in the strongest terms. We would be grateful if you could circulate or copy this letter to your editorial staff and to your legal counsel.

We thank you for your consideration of these important matters.

Sincerely,

Lance B. Wickman

General Counsel

[Elsie]

I think we get more mileage holding people to the meanings of the words they use.

I doubt it...

 

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,

' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  

[Elsie]

MY algebra teacher was NOT ‘old’!

Woo woo!

[Elsie]

What does it have to do with the fact that after the people “well drunk” Jesus gave them more wine?

Nothing.

Why do you insist that Jesus got them drunk?

[Elsie]

Are you trying to accuse me alongside Jesus in the words of the Jews who killed Him?

Nope!

Separately!

[Elsie]

Indeed we die and receive our judgment immediately.

You are confused, it seems.

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Daniel 12:2
Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

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Exodus 32:32-33
 But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.”  But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.

 

Daniel 12:1
 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.

 

 

 

Philippians 4:3
 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

 

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

 

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

 

 

 

Revelation 17:8
 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

 

 

 

Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

 

Revelation 21:27

Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

[Elsie]

I had 4 of these for breakfast this morning!

Ugh... stuffed...

[Elsie]

Sorry; but GOOGLE® didn't find this:

And I will give to [Peter] the keys of the kingdom of heaven.

What translation is it from?