Posted on 12/10/2014 6:32:20 AM PST by marshmallow
"Christian unity" is one of those terms that stir up a whole spectrum ofsometimes emotionalopinions.
On the one hand, we know that Jesus prayed to the Father concerning future believers "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you" (John 17:21a, NIV).
On the other hand, charismatics know it is almost pointless to discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12, 14) with Baptists or most anyone else from a mainline denomination. And Protestants of just about any stripe get riled up when they hear Catholics talking about papal infallibility or their adoration of the Virgin Mary.
It's on this latter point that Rick Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, and successful author, has waded into a hornet's nest of controversy by telling a Catholic News Service interviewer that Protestants and Catholics "have far more in common than what divides us" and that Catholics do not "worship Mary like she's another god."
Regarding Warren's view that Catholics do not worship Mary, Matt Slick, writing on the website of the Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry, goes into great detail with material from Roman Catholic sources that say Mary is "the all holy one," is to be prayed to, worshipped, that she "brings us the gifts of eternal life" and she "made atonement for the sins of man."
If that's not putting her in the place of Christ as a god-like figure to be worshipped, then what is it?
"We believe in Trinity, the Bible, the resurrection, and that salvation is through Jesus Christ. These are the big issues," Warren says. "But the most important thing is if you love Jesus, we're on the same team."
To Warren's point about being on the same team, Slick.....
(Excerpt) Read more at charismanews.com ...
Well, THIS sure has to be tradition, because the bible records no such EXALTATION.
This is something that Rome has created.
Every pope has been handpicked by GOD.
Aye, laddie; she was.
Rome says:
The Blessed Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ, True God and True Man, was A SINLESS human.
If I was a Catholic; I'd WORRY about this claim!!
It would be a mortal sin (a violation of the First Commandment) for a Catholic to claim otherwise.
Actually, last I heard, God had nothing to do with the selection of the pope.
And just wow, can I believe that.
You, obviously, are very tenderhearted.
We play REALLY rough on THIS playground.
If you wish to remain unscathed, get some protection.
If you deside to stay; watch and learn from your fellow Catholics here.
Say what they say, and you'll never have to worry that even a fleck of nastiness will ever escape YOUR lips (fingers, I guess).
But they sure are carrying a LOT of extra baggage along with them.
She prophesied that we would.
You call her a LOT more than that!
Evidently, as much as Catholics would like to honor Mary, the fact remains that she required, as you noted, a Savior...and thus was simply a human sinner like the rest of us. This unavoidable conclusion makes veneration a tragic, overworked error on Rome's part. Sorry.
We HAVE no minds.
We merely aRE REPEATING WHAT (wanna buy a CAPSLOCK key?) our heavily laden Catholic Brothers are saying.
Some seem to think that this new one they’ve gotten is of the latter category.
Dang!
I've promised myself NOT to be my own straightman...
We Prots get lumped into the vast mass of 'every man his own pope' of Protestantism.
It seems to me that Catholics are allowed to be be...
...every man(woman) their own ANTI-pope!
I suspected a lapsed Catholic. I’ll lite a candle for you at Mass. God bless you.
We got a WOMAN running things now!
http://www.wesleyan.org/joannelyon
In other news... https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/12/10/wesleyan-bring-back-controversial-hummus-brand
“I suspected a lapsed Catholic. Ill lite a candle for you at Mass. God bless you.”
Not a lapsed Catholic. A fulfilled Christian!
Have you considered that lighting a candle is a pagan practice? Do you really believe the candle has any spiritual value?
“God bless you.”
God bless you NKP!
Still not worship. Thanks for trying. Each time you post it just confirms I was right.
Well, I don't know about that, but there IS a local church who is MUCH more diverse.
They've invited a mostly black congregation to worship, using the same facilities, and also a Hispanic one that meets in the fellowship hall as well.
They says there's no need to let the buildings set empty when the Lord's work can be getting done.
The mostly white original congregation is getting older, the demographics of the neighborhood is changing and these other worship teams can reach people that they would not be able to reach.
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