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Priest picked by Pope Francis as sex crimes prosecutor failed to report abuse complaints: report
NY Daily News ^ | November 24, 2014 | AP

Posted on 11/24/2014 11:26:43 AM PST by Gamecock

An American priest named by Pope Francis as the Vatican’s sex crimes prosecutor in September was among church officials who failed to report an abusive priest to law enforcement before the now-jailed and defrocked man committed other acts of sexual abuse, according to legal documents reviewed by The Boston Globe.

The Rev. Robert Geisinger, the second-highest-ranking leader of the Chicago Jesuits in the 1990s, knew as early as 1995 about abuse complaints against the Rev. Donald McGuire, and he advised church officials as late as August 2002 on how to discipline McGuire, the Globe reported in Sunday editions. The newspaper cited legal documents including church records produced during lawsuits by McGuire’s victims.

Court documents also show that abuse complaints against McGuire date back to the 1960s, but the Jesuits failed for years to tell police.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: catholic

1 posted on 11/24/2014 11:26:43 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

That sounds like they got their man.


2 posted on 11/24/2014 11:27:51 AM PST by BipolarBob (You smell of elderberries, my friend.)
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom; daniel1212; CynicalBear
200 years of tradition by the church that gave us the Bible.</sarc>
3 posted on 11/24/2014 11:28:30 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a Gospel preacher like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Gamecock

2000


4 posted on 11/24/2014 11:28:48 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a Gospel preacher like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: BipolarBob; Gamecock
That sounds like they got their man.

And some underage boys as well.

5 posted on 11/24/2014 11:32:52 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Gamecock
Bishop of Rome knows his perverted fetishes.

In an interview titled "Careerism and vanity: Sins of the Church," Tornielli's last question to you was: Can you tell us how the Roman Curia is perceived from the outside?

And you, Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio, replied:

I see it as a body that gives service, a body that helps me and serves me. Sometimes negative news does come out, but it is often exaggerated and manipulated to spread scandal. Journalists sometimes risk becoming ill from coprophilia and thus fomenting coprophagia: which is a sin that taints all men and women, that is, the tendency to focus on the negative rather than the positive aspects. The Roman Curia has its down sides, but I think that too much emphasis is placed on its negative aspects and not enough on the holiness of the numerous consecrated and lay people who work in it.

Now the term "coprophilia" which you used spontaneously in the interview refers to a sexual perversion (fetish) by which a person derives sexual excitement from the presence of feces. The term "coprophagia" pertains to the actual act of eating excrement. Both paraphilias are commonly associated with homosexual behavior and are a regular feature of homosexual pornography.

That a bishop should so glibly refer to such disgusting and perverted practices in a public interview clearly indicates to me that you are not unschooled in the ways and dangers of sexual perversion, and hence, have no real need for me to instruct you on the perversity of homosexual behaviors, nor on the grave necessity of combating the Homosexual Collective and other forces of organized perversion.

6 posted on 11/24/2014 11:45:59 AM PST by GreensKeeperWillie (Sancte Maria, mater Dei, ora pro nobis.)
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To: GreensKeeperWillie

It does speak volumes......


7 posted on 11/24/2014 12:07:45 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Gamecock

Wow! Protect their own still applies evidently.


8 posted on 11/24/2014 12:08:38 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: GreensKeeperWillie
The Pope was using the word, of course, metphorically, the way St. Paul used the word "dung."

The word in question refers, much more frequently, to a solid-waste-eating behavior in animals. In some cases it is normal, in some it indicates a nutritional deficiency. But you, assuming it meant a gay behavior, just used, repeatedly, the word copro--- oh, nevermind.

I'm going to assume you've been over-exposed to veterinarians.

9 posted on 11/24/2014 12:11:48 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (It's so easy to say something intelligent. Just think of something stupid, and say the opposite.)
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To: GreensKeeperWillie

Sick perverted complicity comes to mind. How anyone can defend the hierarchy of that cult is beyond me.


10 posted on 11/24/2014 12:12:13 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Gamecock
Are you sure you don't want to petition the RM for a new category, [Catholic-Bashing Devotional]?

That way, you'd be sure to bash away without annoying interruptions from the ones being bashed...
11 posted on 11/24/2014 12:48:45 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan

Telling the truth isn’t bashing.

Hiding behind the word bashing is akin to accusing people of being “rassis.” The sole purpose is to shut people down.

It is a well know liberal tactic.


12 posted on 11/24/2014 1:31:00 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a Gospel preacher like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; GreensKeeperWillie
I'm going to assume you've been over-exposed to veterinarians.

coprophilia: marked interest in excrement; especially : the use of feces or filth for sexual excitement

No mention of veterinarians here. The fact that the Pope made such a vulgar reference in an interview is bizarre and certainly raises questions.

13 posted on 11/24/2014 1:55:39 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Gamecock

Mm-hmm. And you just *happen* to spend a preponderance of your time in the Religion Forum posting threads and comments against the Catholic Church. Right.

...and the fact that your “band of brothers” (i.e. those of like mind to you) pepper their Catholic Church comments with words such as “cult”, etc., is completely coincidental. Right.

Look: faithful Catholics are *more* outraged about the errors and abuses committed by Catholics (especially clerics) than you are. We don’t like them, and we don’t approve of them. But if you think the Catholic Church has some sort of monopoly on “fallen humans in the ranks” (including idiots who shuffle other sinners from place to place, rather than dealing with it rightly), then I don’t know what to tell you.

It’s when you (and your “buddies” who hate the Catholic Church) try to make a “connection” such as “Catholic official [x] did [insert bad thing], therefore the Catholic Church is a false Church and a cult”, THAT’s when any reasonable person will part ways with your comment (and start to wonder about your credibility).


14 posted on 11/24/2014 1:56:14 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: BlatherNaut
If you look up coprophagia, you will see its primary meaning is sh-- eating. "Coprophilia" is specifically the sexual paraphilia.

Rhetorically, it's a distinctionw without much difference. He was speaking metaphorically. He was rather brusquely referencing people who are drawn to, and have always in their mouths, the mud of negative talk. In the context, he was speaking of sinful defamation, aspersions, innuendoes. Similar concept: muck-raking. Conveys the idea of uncleanness in the mouth.

15 posted on 11/24/2014 3:21:54 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (God's grace has been revealed, and has made salvation possible for the whole human race. (Titus 2))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

There are those who defend the words and actions of this Pope no matter how outlandish, outrageous, or inappropriate.

That a foul reference to a filthy sexual perversion could ever be considered edifying language for the purpose of “teaching and sanctifying” is extremely sad.


16 posted on 11/24/2014 4:27:24 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
POpe Francis choice of the word "coprophagia" would not have been mine. If I were the editor I would have red-penciled it. If I were the actual author, in order to convey the same idea, I might have said "slanderers' mouths are full of sewage."

However it is short-sighted to object to an uncomfortable lexical choice, which was evidently meant to be strong. It is not nearly as strong as what St. Paul said, when he preached against circumcision, and said "I wish those who unsettle you would castrate themselves!"

THis whole strange copro-theme is a read herring which has dwawn up far afield from the subject of the thread. I'm done with this topic. Good night.

17 posted on 11/24/2014 5:09:33 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Seriously.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

A crude and revolting reference to a disgusting sexual perversion is merely an “uncomfortable lexical choice” worthy of St. Paul? Talk about a twisted rationalization. Good night.


18 posted on 11/24/2014 5:30:59 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The fact that you refuse to address the fact that Archbishop Bergoglio also used the word coprophilia has convinced me that you deliberately ignore negative facts concerning Francis.


19 posted on 11/24/2014 6:36:37 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
#15. I addressed "coprophilia." I guess you didn't notice that.

It's a word used by Bergoglio when he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires which absolutely fits into the context since he is clearly denouncing sin in the most vehement terms. He is not endorsing it! It's like St. Paul saying arsenokoitai.

How dare he use that word! (Shakes head.) As if one can't compare to sin to sin, when denouncing sin.

This discussion is useless. G'bye.

20 posted on 11/25/2014 7:42:24 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Seriously.)
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