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Cardinal O’Malley: ‘If I Were Founding a Church, I’d Love to Have Women Priests’
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 11/17/14 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 11/17/2014 6:17:04 AM PST by marshmallow

Cardinal Sean O’Malley of Boston has said that were he to start a church he would “love to have women priests”.

The outspoken remarks came during an interview with 60 Minutes on American television network CBS.

Asked by reporter Norah O’Donnell whether excluding women from the Church hierarchy was immoral, Cardinal O’Malley said, “Christ would never ask us to do something immoral. It’s a matter of vocation and what God has given to us.”

He said: “Not everyone needs to be ordained to have an important role in the life of the Church. Women run Catholic charities, Catholic schools … They have other very important roles. A priest can’t be a mother. The tradition in the Church is that we ordain men.”

He then added: “If I were founding a church, I’d love to have women priests,” O’Malley said. “But Christ founded it, and what he has given us is something different.”

In the interview Cardinal O’Malley also called the Vatican’s investigation into the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) and efforts to reform the organisation “a disaster”.

An assessment by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith called for the reform to ensure LCWR’s fidelity to Catholic teaching in areas including abortion, euthanasia, women’s ordination and homosexuality.

Asked if he thought women should be in more positions of responsibility in the Curia, Cardinal O’Malley replied, “Yes. I think there should be. And — hopefully, there will be.”

He offered no timetable as to when that could happen. “I can’t tell you what time, but – hopefully soon, you know,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicherald.co.uk ...


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What is O'Malley trying to say here?..... "I'd do it differently from Jesus but His way is OK too and even if it's not, we're stuck with it".....??
1 posted on 11/17/2014 6:17:04 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Bowing to PC and politics. Doesn’t sound like a religious leader; more like a local politician


2 posted on 11/17/2014 6:19:59 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

How did this guy ever get to be a Cardinal. If they had the rank of sparrow, that would be more appropriate. Yes, he does sound more like a politician.

He is correct on one regard about women priests though, it is not a matter of faith, it is a matter of church policy which is subject to change, matters of faith are not.

Lastly, why do these guys go on these shows anyway. Does any of them yet know they are not their friends or friends of the church. They are there to stir up controversy.


3 posted on 11/17/2014 6:23:13 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: marshmallow

I don’t know much about this O’Malley guy, but I think you might be miss-reading. Us, in our fallibility, would do things different than what the Lord did, but we’d do well to obey God’s clear teaching.


4 posted on 11/17/2014 6:26:31 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: marshmallow

Of course, after reading the article, yes, he is saying he could do it better than Jesus.


5 posted on 11/17/2014 6:27:47 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Mouton

Perhaps you should re-read ORDINATIO SACERDOTALIS by St. JPII.

In the Apostolic Letter Mulieris Dignitatem, I myself wrote in this regard: “In calling only men as his Apostles, Christ acted in a completely free and sovereign manner. In doing so, he exercised the same freedom with which, in all his behavior, he emphasized the dignity and the vocation of women, without conforming to the prevailing customs and to the traditions sanctioned by the legislation of the time.”(5)

5. Apsotolic Letter Mulieris Dignnitatem (August 15, 1988), n. 26: AAS 80 (1988), 1715.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_letters/1994/documents/hf_jp-ii_apl_19940522_ordinatio-sacerdotalis_en.html


6 posted on 11/17/2014 6:30:23 AM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: Mouton

“...it is not a matter of faith”

Yes it is.

“...it is a matter of church policy”

Church policy based on faith that the Bible offers the best practice.

“..which is subject to change, matters of faith are not.”

Can’t change the policy unless you lose faith in inerrancy.


7 posted on 11/17/2014 6:30:58 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: marshmallow; All

Ok, go find one somewhere...because you have surely lost your own.


8 posted on 11/17/2014 6:32:01 AM PST by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: marshmallow

What person in the NT had the first gathering of what could be constituted a church?


9 posted on 11/17/2014 6:35:46 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: marshmallow

My wife as a DRE and Confirmation Director has a better explanation to the teens when teaching on this subject. She tells them to focus on the things they “CAN” do versus the things they “CANT” do and let God handle the rest. This really resonates with the young women.


10 posted on 11/17/2014 6:36:51 AM PST by Shark24
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To: Mouton
SpirituTou already caught this, but: women *cannot* be ordained. I.e. it's not just "disallowed"--it's impossible, and even if a bishop [or even the Pope] TRIED, with all the words and gestures and chrism in the world, and if the woman went on to try to "concelebrate" with the Pope [and even if the Pope smilingly permitted it], it wouldn't "take"; the woman would still be a non-priest, playing make-believe.

Here are the "money quotes" from Ordinatio Sacerdotalis; the last paragraph uses language specifically tailored to the invocation of papal infallibility:

Although the teaching that priestly ordination is to be reserved to men alone has been preserved by the constant and universal Tradition of the Church and firmly taught by the Magisterium in its more recent documents, at the present time in some places it is nonetheless considered still open to debate, or the Church's judgment that women are not to be admitted to ordination is considered to have a merely disciplinary force [note: this means "merely policy, which can be changed, as opposed to Church DOGMA, which cannot be changed]

Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church's divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church's faithful.

11 posted on 11/17/2014 6:39:32 AM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: marshmallow

Someone should tell Sean we have had women priests—you know, the faggots who were diddling little boys.

Also, Sean read this: http://leomcneil.net/2014/11/17/lumbersexuals-your-beard-doesnt-make-you-masculine/


12 posted on 11/17/2014 6:42:42 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: marshmallow

Does the good Cardinal believe he is equal to Christ?

His only failing was that he was born 2 thousand years too late to do it right.


13 posted on 11/17/2014 6:44:41 AM PST by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: Mouton
How did this guy ever get to be a Cardinal.

Good question.

14 posted on 11/17/2014 6:52:48 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: marshmallow

I saw that piece and it appeared to me that O’Malley is a bleeding heart liberal and maybe even plays for the other team.


15 posted on 11/17/2014 6:56:20 AM PST by MNnice
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To: marshmallow

Blech.........


16 posted on 11/17/2014 7:10:37 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

Oh good grief! Not to your comment, but to O’Malley.


17 posted on 11/17/2014 7:12:41 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee)
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To: marshmallow

I used to really struggle with this, but I am getting more comfortable. It may be a little cynical to say, but maybe men need the priestly vocation more than women do. God tends to call people, not only for what he needs them to do, but also to help them grow towards Him. Like St. Peter, who needed to become a better man, and also was needed to lead the flock.

Most women get a monthly reminder to stay humble, and that God is in charge. Also, pregnancy is a process that offers themselves up for service in the cause of life-giving. Maybe some men particularly need to know that God is in charge, and they are supposed to serve, with reverence. So they consecrate hosts and baptize, etc.

it’s true, as the Cardinal said, that if he were doing it, he could come up with a nice little religion. It just wouldn’t be real, and Jesus would have no interest in it. Our trade off is that we go for real, tangible evidence of Christ among us, and live with some unanswered questions.


18 posted on 11/17/2014 7:18:39 AM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: marshmallow

I think that the point he is trying to make is that the decision to reserve the priesthood to men was by God and not by human reasoning.


19 posted on 11/17/2014 7:21:16 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Shark24

why not ask them to think logically.
IF there were to be priestesses,wouldn’t Christ have ordained His own Mother,who is without sin- first ?


20 posted on 11/17/2014 7:25:05 AM PST by catroina54
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