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To: af_vet_1981

Luther ended up doing what many of the popes in history did.

Why does this surprise you?

Who would should we obey? God or man? Two men asked that question in the early church.

Follow Christ not fallen men.


339 posted on 11/16/2014 9:52:37 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: redleghunter
Luther ended up doing what many of the popes in history did. Why does this surprise you?

It seems to me that, in order to save Luther, Protestantism would sacrifice all of historical Christianity as equally antiSemitic, making Matthew 25 of none effect. Further, the defense of Luther suggests to me that being born again in the sense of Luther is a farce, as the works do not accompany the faith. Not only was Luther the enemy of the Jewish people, he was the enemy of the Anabaptists, and any other assembly forbidding infant baptism.

Who would should we obey? God or man? Two men asked that question in the early church. Follow Christ not fallen men.

Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

General Principles. The Roman Church does not claim any jurisdiction over persons who have not been baptized; therefore the relations of the popes, as the heads of the Church, to the Jews have been limited to rules regarding the political, commercial, and social conditions under which Jews might reside in Christian states. As sovereigns of the Papal States the popes further had the right to legislate on the status of their Jewish subjects. Finally, voluntary action was occasionally taken by the popes on behalf of the Jews who invoked their aid in times of persecution, seeking their mediation as the highest ecclesiastical authorities. The general principles governing the popes in their treatment of the Jews are practically identical with those laid down in the Justinian Code: (1) to separate them from social intercourse with Christians as far as possible; (2) to prevent them from exercising any authority over Christians, either in a public (as officials) or a private capacity (as masters or employers); (3) to arrange that the exercise of the Jewish religion should not assume the character of a public function. On the other hand, however, the popes have always condemned, theoretically at least, (1) acts of violence against the Jews, and (2) forcible baptism.

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

So the angel that communed with me said unto me, Cry thou, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy. And I am very sore displeased with the heathen that are at ease: for I was but a little displeased, and they helped forward the affliction.

For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

340 posted on 11/17/2014 6:50:16 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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