Family now under the influence of the Pope Francis attack

The Tenth Crusade ^ | November 9, 2014 | The Tenth Crusade

[ebb tide]

I can't subject myself to the articles about Pope Francis demotion and exile of Cardinal Burke posted by long suffering Catholic journalists who have been luring our children into adultery and sexual debauchery, but I have been reading the headlines.

I have also been fielding questions from readers who tell me stories about how their relatives and loved ones have put adultery on full throttle, citing the counterfeit deposit of faith Pope Francis has generated with his...I am groping for charity here...statements and actions contrary to Church teaching and obfuscation of teaching.

These journalists have been permitted to use the name Catholic and flourish, while the see of bishops, the majority of which desire to license adultery from their own chanceries, have focused stripping The name Catholic from those who are trying to expose the counterfeit church they have erected within.

If I am reading the tone in the titles of articles on Pope Francis removal of Cardinal Burke written by journalists with long histories of selling sexual debauchery and adultery, they are now claiming Pope Francis agrees with their agenda and is advancing it at the Holy See.

There is no evidence to the contrary.

The Pope's public witness tells a story to our children and the people we love.

That story subverts any Church teaching we have taught in the past and it neutralizes if not renders completely ineffective, any attempt we make to persuade them that celibacy, chastity, Sacramental Marriage until death, Sunday obligation and other explanations in the Catechism about the Ten Commandments in the future.

Our families are now under attack from the sitting Pope.

I have read stories referencing a schism and internal war. I believe even Cardinal Burke referenced the danger of schism under Pope Francis does exist.

The problem with this situation is, it's all going to creep back into homilies and religious education and our Sacred Liturgy, Sacraments and Rites.

Those who have been luring our children away from Church teaching have been declared as holding a true deposit of faith which is being caricatured by Pope Francis as some kind of ignorance of 2000 years of Popes and Saints. They are being invited to promote heresy as church teaching in an effort to help the Pope, who is here to enlighten us of benefits of adultery and memorialize contradicting the Catechism as the practice for salvation.

The sappy silliness of clapping fornication is making its way into former strongholds. Good pastors are getting caught up into it.

The stories written about Cardinal Burke are really about us as the heads of our family and our ability to carry out our vocation to teach the tools for salvation with efficacy.

It's destruction is at hand and I have lost the urge to put up a facade about who is leading that attack.

[ebb tide]

Did I miss something?

Of course you skipped something. You skipped this:

But also — a parenthesis — the Orthodox have a different practice. They follow the theology of the economy, as we call it, and give a second possibility, they allow it. But I think this problem — close the parenthesis — must be studied in the framework of matrimonial ministry.

How could you (or why did you) skip that part?

[SpirituTuo]

Because he was speaking parenthetically about what the Greeks do.

[BlatherNaut]

Cardinal Kasper is so far off the mark, it is good Cardinal Burke and his 4 colleagues wrote their book.

And yet, instead of recommending this logical and clear exposition of the teachings of Christ for the edification of the faithful, Pope Francis promotes the heretical maunderings of the book authored by Cardinal Kasper and mocks the faithful who present him with Rosary bouquets. These data points raise serious questions regarding the source of the "spirit" he invokes to justify the "lio" he is determined to create. Fr. Gabriele Amorth, the exorcist/author discusses clerical cases of demonic "vexation" in his book, "Memoirs of an Exorcist". Perhaps we need to double down on the Rosary bouquets for Pope Francis, despite his distaste for such endeavors.

[ebb tide]

Francis wasn’t speaking parenthetically when he praised Kasper, in front of the bishops, after Kasper made his case for the Catholic Church to allow giving Holy Communion to adulterers, just as the Orthodox do.

Francis later allowed the same sinful proposal to brought up in the SinNod. Why doesn’t he allow incest to brought up next year?

You have falsely accused me of calling Cardinal Wuerl a homosexual; you have twice implied I’m doing the work of the Devil; yet you deliberatleyl parse interviews to fit your Pollyanna view of Francis.

Any good Catholic would expect a good Catholic pope to immediately shut-down all talk of willingly compounding mortal sin with more sin. But from a previous post (Post 33) of yours, it appears you’re open to such a move, as Francis obviously is. Yet, when I plead the case of the past Magisterium, you accuse me of doing the devil’s work.

It looks like you and I are on different teams; but mine has a better track record than yours.

[ebb tide]

He closed parenthesis before saying this compounding of sin “must be studied”.

Again, you read only what you want to read.

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My point was that whole thing wasn't’t some secret cabal where novel doctrine was created and then rubber stamped by the Pope.

No, rather novel doctrine was proposed (see the interim report) and then resoundingly shot down by a few real Catholic bishops; thus; a speechless Francis could not rubber stamp that which he had wanted to stamp.

That is where, in my opinion, the Holy Ghost may have come into play.

P.S. One of those few, real Catholic bishops has been rudely removed from three of his posts and exiled to an "honorary" position. Will you blame that action on Kasper; or will you finally admit to who's pulling Kasper puppet strings? Who has brought Kasper back into the limelight and set him upon a pedestal?

[ebb tide]

While the voting was held in secret, everything else was public.

No, not only was the the voting held in secret, so were the discussions/debates held in secret.

Only post-session interviews were allowed.

If I'm wrong, please publish or tell us the source where we can read the full discussion that occurred during Francis' secret Sin-Nod. Maybe then, we can make more semblance of who voted for what sins.

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I said “You are being manipulated by the Devil!”

I stopped reading your post right there. Until you apologize for that statement; I will not consider you as a Catholic. You do not know the state of my soul.

[ebb tide]

People can agree without being disagreeable.

I did not know that. Where does accusing one to be manipulated by the Devil come into play?

[ebb tide]

The office of Supreme Pontiff is not like any other political office, where mud is slung by both sides on a daily basis. Rather, it is a office that provides continuity, direction, guidance, and the responsibility with other bishops, to preach the Gospel to the whole world. They deserve respect fitting their office as Vicar of Christ.

Nor should the occupant of the Chair of Peter sling mud at his fellow Catholics who merely wish to practice the faith of their fathers. See Francis' Little Book of Insults, it's all about dishing Catholics; no other religions does he criticize. Meanwhile, he refuses to give his own blessing to an audience, for fear of offending non-belivers; but he runs around seeking the blessing of every Protestant he can find.

[Religion Moderator]

Do not accuse another member of being manipulated by the Devil.

Take a look at my profile page and review the rules very carefully.

[ebb tide]

I also see myself trying to protect the dignity of the office of the See of Peter against those who promote disunity.

If your idea of unity is the same as Francis', we're still on opposite teams. I'm united with the Franciscan Fathers of the Immaculate, with Cardinal Burke, both of whom have been suppressed, censored and humiliated by Francis, with Pope Benedict and all the past popes.

Yet your team captain, has chosen Cardinals Kasper, Marx, Maradiaga, O'Malley (all material heretics), etc. to be his new confidents and Iron Horsemen.

The bookies won't even post odds on this game.

[SpirituTuo]

My apologies. However, we are being manipulated by the devil and his minions. It is called temptation.

That said, I will abide by your rules.

[SpirituTuo]

Let me know when you stop suffering temptation. Let me know when you stop giving into it.

If you are a person, like everyone else, you suffer temptation, and occasionally give into it.

[ebb tide]

Let me know stop when you stop suffering illusions that Francis is impeccable and cannot be criticized, no matter what nonsense he spouts.

Michael Voris comes to mind.

[SpirituTuo]

I never said either of those things. Rather, if you are going to criticize, which can be done vigorously and honestly, do it with respect for the office.

[ebb tide]

I have the utmost respect for the office; it’s a shame that the current occupant doesn’t. He won’t even claim the title of Pope; rather, he calls himself, “Bishop of Rome”. That’s Humble Jorge for ya!

[ebb tide]

Show me where I have ever criticized the office and not the man. I’m not a Protestant.

You are making stuff up again. Just like you did about Wuerl.

[SpirituTuo]

Perhaps in criticizing the man, you could also be more respectful. That isn’t to suggest he is either above criticism or impeccable, rather, he is the Pope and deserves a modicum of respect.

BTW, why won’t you let the sleeping dog lie (Wuerl)? You got your apology, yet you continue to bring it up.