Posted on 11/02/2014 3:14:08 PM PST by NYer
John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
So you believe that Jesus sinned by eating blood and encouraged others to do the same?
Please prove that what the Catholic Church today calls tradition is the same as what the apostles referred to as tradition.
Thx.
Oh how sad that your religion refuses to teach you this...
Col_1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Rom_8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
This is not speaking about Christ in you when ever you eat a cracker...This is Christ in you 24/7...He dwells within believers; Christians...
Rom_8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom_8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
And if Jesus doesn't live within you 24/7???
Rom_8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Do you understand the ramifications of this??? If you don't have this indwelling of God, you are none of his...That ought to shake a lot of people up...
Col_3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
The word of Christ is the written words of the scriptures...Pick up the book...Put down the catechism and learn of God...
Both are important.
To you that is.
Let us agree to disagree. :)
You have been told the truth, ignore it if you wish.
Thank you. May the Peace of Christ be with you and I wish you a blessed Thanksgiving.
Can’t do it ey? Didn’t think so. The Catholic Church itself and those speaking for it admit it incorporates pagan worship practices. That is a direct contradiction to God’s word.
You are wrong, still. I will not give prots a springboard to go off on a rant, tantrum, or hissy fit.
You mentioned "Today you will be in paradise" As if that somehow precludes a stop in Purgatory. He could have spent a thousand years in purgatory, and still be 'today' in God's eyes.
LOL.
Illogical...and a dirty trick.
"Sorry, when I said 'today' I actually meant 1,000 years from now. I was speaking in God-years."
Every time you bring up the false doctrine of your religion it gives us a springboard to correct you guys with the word of God and what God actually teaches about it...
You make no sense. Earlier you admit time is not a God thingy, but then you want him to be bound by time.
Make up your mind.
I merely pointed out how silly your statement is.
When God said "today you will be with me in paradise," he meant TODAY...not a thousand years from now.
Your disadvantage and error obviously comes from not getting your scripture from the bible but from some Catholic publication...Had you studied the scriptures a little you'd get a little bit of understanding on this verse...
Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
so what is the fear and trembling???
Paul is preaching to Christians, new converts, and those who have not yet trusted in Jesus Christ...
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
These are real babes in Christ and some not in Christ at all...they as yet know nothing...
Rom 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
Bearing in mind that those who have called on Jesus Christ have been 'sealed' in the Spirit, and have the down payment of their salvation already paid, Paul is speaking of that first day in heaven...When salvation AND bodily redemption are complete...
Rom 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
Rom 13:13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
Rom 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Paul is teaching that Jesus may come at any minute...Paul is telling these people the time is very short and to fear that Jesus may come back or they may die before they have had time to trust in Jesus if they dilly dally...Paul says 'put on Christ, now'...
That's the fear and trembling...That's the working out your own salvation...Because it's up to YOU how long you want to prolong this...
Now we can put it together with the verse you left out...
Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
If it is God within you that does the works, You working for your own salvation makes no sense...The working out your your own salvation is getting your mind and heart in the right place with God so you become saved as soon as possible and don't have to fear damnation...
The thousand years is how Scripture describes a day to God, not me.
You can't have it both ways
You obfuscate rather than addressing the issue of "today you will be with me in paradise."
That kind of deflection reminds me of what it is to discuss religion with a muslim.
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