[af_vet_1981]

I rely on the Hebrew and Greek as found in Strong’s, Thayer’s, etc

and so have no formal training of significance in Hebrew and Greek that would justify casting away traditionally approved Protestant, Evangelical, and Fundamentalist translations. It seems to me like cherry-picking. The KJV has And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
It seems to me you have neither the education, experience, or authority to cast it away. If you always use a translation that has a different rendering (there are a few), what is it, for you are basing your reading on another's scholarship ?

[narses]

It seems to me you have neither the education, experience, or authority to cast it away. If you always use a translation that has a different rendering (there are a few), what is it, for you are basing your reading on another’s scholarship ?

That IS the nub.

[CynicalBear]

>>traditionally approved Protestant, Evangelical, and Fundamentalist translations.<<

Traditionally? Are you kidding me? Traditionally the Catholics include paganism by their own admission. Most every Protestant church does the same. It's the pharisees who trusted tradition and we see what Jesus thought of that approach.

[ealgeone]

and so have no formal training of significance in Hebrew and Greek that would justify casting away traditionally approved Protestant, Evangelical, and Fundamentalist translations. It seems to me like cherry-picking. The KJV has And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

It seems to me you have neither the education, experience, or authority to cast it away. If you always use a translation that has a different rendering (there are a few), what is it, for you are basing your reading on another's scholarship ?

And just what type of Biblical language training do you have?? You just take the pope's word and go home? Is he a Greek scholar??

CBs comments on Matthew 16:19 are correct. The Greek is the Greek. Doesn't matter if it's protestant or catholic.

[boatbums]

That is the beauty modern day Christians have that those in past centuries didn't...we can go to the expert Greek and Hebrew scholars' publications and see what words were actually used from the start. We can then see what those words meant in the original languages, how they were used IN CONTEXT, how these words may have changed over time or because of translations and come away with a very good basis for knowing the truth that God is communicating with His people. Of course, we must rely upon the Holy Spirit illuminating that truth to our hearts so that we can be corrected, edified, strengthened and able to use the Sword of the Spirit in battling against those who would pervert the word of God.

One doesn't NEED to be a language expert because of the diligent work of those who followed God's leading to do that for us all. A good student of the Bible has at his/her fingertips the knowledge of hundreds of "experts" with which to understand the truths of Scripture.

[Elsie]

 It seems to me like cherry-picking. The KJV has And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

 

 

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