Conservative: “What About Ex-Gays? Does their existence prove that it’s impossible to change sexual orientation?”
Liberal: “They’re lying.”
I’m an ex-alcoholic.
In that, I crave drinks every night, but seldom drink and do so in moderation (and then only due to social requirements) because I realized it was impacting my health and work.
Alcoholics run in the family, including a couple of family members that were adopted-out of the family and with whom we reconnected, so it appears to have some sort of genetic issue there.
I suspect most male queers are much the same, in that few rational people would chose that lifestyle.
There is no genetic test or procedure (experimental or otherwise) that can determine one’s sexual orientation. When people claim to be gay and we believe them, what we’re really doing is taking them at their word. We believe their claim, we believe their testimony and we believe their declaration that they are gay.
But there are some people who are suddenly skeptical when one claims to be ex-gay. They don’t believe the ex-gay claim, they don’t believe the ex-gay testimony nor their declaration that they are ex-gay.
When somebody uses a certain standard to measure the credibility of what one group says, but then refuses to use the same standard to measure the credibility of what another group says—thereby ignoring the claims of the second group (ex-gays)—he should ask himself why he believes one group and not the other... This is a double standard.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3209063/posts?page=173#173
Homosexuality is committing sexual acts with someone born with and having the same sexual genitalia. It is a CHOICE. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.
You could be a victim of environmental estrogen toxins, or poor health decisions that affect your hormones, but just because you have a disease or problem doesn’t make the choice to sin ok. Someone else may have been a victim of environmental toxins that make them prone to violent behavior. Does that make it ok for them to murder? No.
Akin to someone with 15 years of sobriety going back to the drinking lifestyle. (And for someone with a drinking problem, it isn't just the alcohol - it's the other stuff that goes with it that is as much a part of the attraction).
Some heroin addicts never return to it, some do - doesn't mean recovery is not a viable lifestyle.
I'm a sinner saved by grace - doesn't mean I don't still sin, but I choose holiness more often than not.
Isn’t there supposed to be a bi gene too?
Guess that hasn’t been made-up yet.
Some might say "But the 'former gay' will still be attracted to members of the same sex". I respond, "So what? I'm married, yet that doesn't stop me from being sexually attracted to cute young women? As long as I do not act upon it and stay faithful to my wife, then all is fine."