[Iscool]

Salvation has always been future, at the last trump, by the grace of God, dispensed only to those that truly believe as the word means in the scriptures.

Salvation will be fully realized when we die...Have to dump far, far too much scripture to get to where you are in your understanding of salvation...

so apparently in your view, we are NOT the adopted Children of God...We are not saved but possibly 'being' saved if we strive to please God...

I have far too much scripture under my belt to fall for that false doctrine...

[Elsie]

GMTA

[Karl Spooner]

so apparently in your view, we are NOT the adopted Children of God...We are not saved but possibly 'being' saved if we strive to please God...

I am puzzled by this phrase. Where did 'adopted' enter into the equation? I was under the impression that God created us all. Who created us if God has to adopt us?

[editor-surveyor]

The broad misinterpretation of scripture that you have under your belt ignores the assumptions that the apostles always made when they offered those statements:

True belief in Yeshua, which few here have demonstrated. Belief as stressed in John’s first epistle: If you do not keep his commandments you are not in him. If you are not in him, you will not be saved.

You must walk as he walked to be in him.