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To: Iscool; Elsie

Why do you constantly battle a strawman, rather the clear position I quote from God’s word?

No one was ever “under” the law. The law is what is “under” us, supporting us in our quest for righteousness. Had you ever read Deuteronomy 33, you would have had to have seen this foundation of our faith as Moses preached it. Hebrews 3 and 4 is Paul’s tutorial on the same.

Salvation has always been future, at the last trump, by the grace of God, dispensed only to those that truly believe as the word means in the scriptures. Those that believe him live as he did, and follow his loving commandments.

Straw burns!


49 posted on 09/03/2014 4:43:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Salvation has always been future, at the last trump, by the grace of God, dispensed only to those that truly believe as the word means in the scriptures.

Salvation will be fully realized when we die...Have to dump far, far too much scripture to get to where you are in your understanding of salvation...

so apparently in your view, we are NOT the adopted Children of God...We are not saved but possibly 'being' saved if we strive to please God...

I have far too much scripture under my belt to fall for that false doctrine...

53 posted on 09/03/2014 7:17:29 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor
Why do you constantly battle a strawman, rather the clear position I quote from God’s word?

Why then; after you 'quote' it, do you fail to UNDERSTAND it and claim it says something else?

Salvation has always been future, at the last trump, by the grace of God, dispensed only to those that truly believe as the word means in the scriptures.

Would you like to QUOTE some more scripture that supports THIS erroneous statement?



John 3:36 

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

 

Ephesians 2:8 

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

 

1 John 3:14 

We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers.

 

1 John 5:1 

Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.

 

1 John 5:11-13

And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

 


54 posted on 09/04/2014 4:49:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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