Posted on 09/02/2014 5:23:49 PM PDT by HarleyD
This article is not going to be popular with the Grace -covers-all crowd!
Thanks for posting it!
Now just that pesky matter of the 4th commandment....
Grace does cover all.
The regenerate desire and strive to keep the law.
There is no tension here.
It is so easy to make a point using isolated quotes from Scripture, but it must be complete within context to supply the proper theme and conversation
Paul complies the thought at the end of Chapter 7, and encapsulates it in the first part of Chapter 8...
Romans 8: 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. ...
>> “Romans 8: 1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” <<
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But of course, one needs to turn to 1John to find the definitive understanding on just who is “in” Yeshua.
John explains that those that have rejected his perfect law are not in him.
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>> “The regenerate desire and strive to keep the law” <<
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Yes, this is the reality, but so many here think that Grace guarantees them unconditional salvation, just for saying an unbiblical prayer, and that under pressure by a revival handler.
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Sola Gratia, as affirmed by the Council of Orange in 529 AD. In that sense, I would say that grace does cover everthing — perhaps not in the sense you mean though.
You are welcome to try and live under the Law. I prefer to rely on Christ! Again, context is necessary and the thought must be complete in presentation.
Romans 7 :... 13 Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! Nevertheless, in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it used what is good to bring about my death, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful.
14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
Really?
Who?
>> “You are welcome to try and live under the Law. I prefer to rely on Christ!” <<
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John blows a huge hole in that tautology! Read his epistle, and while you’re at it, have a read at James’.
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If we follow the calendar in Scripture and in His sky, and reject the greco roman latin sun calendar named after pope gregory, the 4th commandment is clear.
But good luck finding a government, business or place of worship in the world not united with the world’s timekeeping..
But then again, Scripture says not to be conformed to the world..
I’ve no intention of starting a flame war with any individual.
Hahahahahaaaaa...
I have read ALL of the Scripture, many times, and have relied on the Holy Spirit to "lead me into all truth". YMMV!
I won't bother you any more with the whole Truth as explained by Paul, as you think that by following the Law one can achieve Salvation. If that were true, Christ died for naught!
Romans 8: ... 5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10 But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you. ...
>> “But then again, Scripture says not to be conformed to the world.” <<
Precisely.
And your facts and stats to back you your questionable claim are ?????
The spirit that leads away from obedience is the one that fails John’s test of the spirits, and is not ‘Holy.’
Posted comments serve to answer your request; just read them.
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