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Jessa Duggar's Beau Ben Seewald Deletes Anti-Catholic Statements From Facebook After Backlash
The Christian Post ^ | 7/24/14 | Sami K. Martin

Posted on 07/29/2014 4:02:28 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

Jessa Duggar is currently courting Ben Seewald, a very strong Christian with very strong views on things. His views on the Catholic faith, however, recently caused a social media scandal and Seewald deleted the comments he had posted to his Facebook page.

"Where Catholics depart from Scripture, I will in no way support, but will call them out because I love them and desire that they be turned from their deadly errors," Seewald wrote. He also noted that he disagreed with the claim that Jesus' mother Mary was a "sinless being. I have nothing against individuals who are Catholic," he continued. "I know a lot of Catholics who are great people. What I DO have a problem with is the teaching that man can merit God's favor through his own works or the works of other fallen men."

Seewald was still not through expressing his disappointment with the Catholic tradition.

"I DO have a problem with the teaching that man can come to God through Mary or any other person besides Jesus … I DO have a problem with the deification of Mary as a sinless being. Mary herself admitted her need for a Savior. If she had no sin, she would need no Savior," he concluded.

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To: rabidralph

I agree with him,too.


61 posted on 07/29/2014 5:44:56 PM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: Ann Archy

“just THINK WHY GOD would have HIS ONLY SON be BORN of a SINFILLED WOMAN!!!!”

Since all humans are fallen and sinful, there would be no other kind!!


62 posted on 07/29/2014 5:47:18 PM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: Ann Archy

We are not showing distain for her. We just know the Bible says everyone is sinful. Even Mary.


63 posted on 07/29/2014 5:51:18 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: RaceBannon
Doctrine and scripture are intertwined. One cannot contradict the other. There is no fault in using one to defend the other.

As I said, Mary was saved, by grace alone. God filled Her with grace at the moment of conception.

And you claim I "misuse" scripture, but do nothing to address any points. All men have sinned, Jesus was a man. Did He sin? All men die, Enoch did not die. Scripture taken in context shatters Protestant doctrine, which is why Protestants decry context in nearly every instance.

64 posted on 07/29/2014 5:52:44 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: CA Conservative

Amen.


65 posted on 07/29/2014 5:53:19 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: vladimir998
If there is no asking of saints in heaven to pray for us on earth, where do they get our prayers that they offer before the altar of God? Those prayers offered in heaven must be those of the saints on earth since the saints in heaven no longer need prayers.

There is nothing in that passage of Scripture to indicate that the saints who are praying are in Heaven. It says that the beasts, the elders and the angels are in Heaven, and are offering the prayers of the saints... There is nothing I can find in Scripture to indicate that we can hear requests from others to pray for them when we are dead.

66 posted on 07/29/2014 5:53:38 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: impimp
Hail Mary, full of GRACE...

Yes, she received Grace - as do we all when we are saved.

"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)

67 posted on 07/29/2014 6:05:07 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Faith Presses On

Jess is a lucky gal to have found Ben!


68 posted on 07/29/2014 6:13:27 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Faith Presses On

Gross and repulsive. You need to just head over to DU where you belong.


69 posted on 07/29/2014 6:16:53 PM PDT by napscoordinator (I guarantee every FRiend Misses the lost opportunity of a President Santorum!)
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To: MamaB

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Mama B. I love you but dang..........Ok....we will just agree to disagree. lol. Have a great one!!!!!


70 posted on 07/29/2014 6:18:33 PM PDT by napscoordinator (I guarantee every FRiend Misses the lost opportunity of a President Santorum!)
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To: longfellowsmuse; JudyinCanada
>>Catholics do not pray to Mary. The Hail Mary prayer comes from the Gospel of Luke. We merely ask her to pray for us, something we ask of all the saints.<<

That may have worked before Catholic prayers to Mary asking her to do something other than just intercede were posted for all to see. How about let’s look at a prayer to Mary.

Prayer to the Blessed Virgin Mary Mary, who as teacher of faith by your obedience to the word of God, has cooperated in a remarkable way with the work of redemption, make the ministry of deacons effective by teaching them to hear the word and to proclaim it faithfully.

Mary, teacher of charity, who by your total openness to God's call has cooperated in bringing to birth all the church's faithful, make the ministry and the life of deacons fruitful by teaching them to give themselves totally to the service of the people of God.

Mary, teacher of prayer, who through your maternal intercession has supported and helped the church from her beginnings, make deacons always attentive to the needs of the faithful by teaching them to come to know the value of prayer. Mary, teacher of humility, who, by constantly knowing yourself to be the servant of the Lord, has filled with the Holy Spirit, make deacons docile instruments in Christ's work of redemption by teaching them the greatness of being the least of all.

Mary, teacher of that service which is hidden, who by your everyday and ordinary life filled with love knew how to cooperate with the salvific plan of God in an exemplary fashion, make deacons good and faithful servants by teaching them the joy of serving the church with an ardent love. Amen.

There are many, many more on line. Catholics need to understand how disingenuous statements like yours are.

71 posted on 07/29/2014 6:21:07 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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72 posted on 07/29/2014 6:22:31 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Legatus; Faith Presses On

Then what is purgatory for?


73 posted on 07/29/2014 6:22:44 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
Then what is purgatory for?

The purification of our souls. I don't understand how the question relates to merit.

74 posted on 07/29/2014 6:31:51 PM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Ann Archy; Faith Presses On
>> Close your eyes and just THINK WHY GOD would have HIS ONLY SON be BORN of a SINFILLED WOMAN!!!<<

Because if he wasn’t born of a sinful mother He wouldn’t be “like us in all ways accept for sin”.

Scripture also says “for all have sinned”. Jesus is the only one that it specifically says was without sin.

75 posted on 07/29/2014 6:35:55 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Faith Presses On

If I really cared what a twit like Ben Seewald thinks about me and my religion I might be offended. But since I don’t, I’m not.


76 posted on 07/29/2014 6:38:09 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Mary had the same kind of human nature that Adam and Eve did, before they disobeyed God’s law. Fully human, and also sinless.

You are not suggesting that Mary was sinless from birth, right? Because I can see nothing in Scripture to support that. I certainly believe she was forgiven of any sins and thus made "sinless" when the Holy Spirit came upon her. But I do not believe or see any Scripture to support the idea that Mary was sinless or a perpetual virgin after the birth of Christ.

77 posted on 07/29/2014 6:38:13 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: napscoordinator

That is hard to do right now when I am dealing with myasthenia gravis and double vision. Thanks. You too.


78 posted on 07/29/2014 6:47:46 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Ann Archy

Jesus HAD to be born in human form- and since the scriptures clearly indicate that none are exempt from Adam’s sin and their own to boot, that Mary , chosen as a vessel (a and therefore highly favored by God-not chosen because of her qualities specifically) bore the Son of God after being “overshadowed” by the Holy Spirit. Jesus was born of woman, born under the law to save those condemned by the law through His perfect sacrifice that took all of God’s Holy Wrath against sin and exhausted God’s anger towards all of mans sin (”It is Finished”), past present and future; thereby establishing a new covenant in His blood.

Mary indeed was a sinful woman, and she needed the salvation her Son ( fully human and fully God)provided her.

May God richly bless His Gospel


79 posted on 07/29/2014 6:51:42 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Ann Archy

Indeed we can be full of grace-even as sinners saved by that very grace. It is His righteousness that justifies the believer, not any personal quality (or lack thereof-the self righteousness is forgiven, the sinful actions forgiven too).

Grace, if you recall, is undeserved favor- a free gift (otherwise it would be a debt of God, not a gift of God!)

Eyes wide open indeed, to the Gospel of Grace not of works lest any should boast!


80 posted on 07/29/2014 6:55:34 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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