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Obama's LGBT Executive Order And The Bishops' Disingenuous Protests
Restore DC Catholicism ^ | 7/22/2014

Posted on 07/23/2014 2:11:43 AM PDT by markomalley

Yesterday the Messiah Most Miserable issued a dictatorial fiat executive order stating that no federal contractor can "discriminate" in its personnel practices based on employees' gender identity and/or sexual orientation.  Churches and related organizations are NOT exempted.  The USCCB pitched a fit.  My question is, "would this order of Obama's had been a blip on their radar screens if they had been exempted?"  Given prior behaviors, I must opine that had Obama exempted churches, they wouldn't have given a rat's rump regarding the matter.

But since the USCCB and so many of the dioceses are officially on the federal dole for so much of their budgets (e.g., those huge grants to facilitate the Central American child-trafficking scheme), they are in a panic now that it appears that their gravy trains may be pulling into the station.

John Zmirak posted quite a cogent piece on Aleteia, to which I now link.  I'll post one key paragraph below.  I'll elaborate on emboldened phrases below.

The short term impact of this on faithful Christians will certainly be unpleasant. Let’s assume that the leaders of the major Christian communions (Catholic, Orthodox and Evangelical) stand on principle.  Churches and charities that won’t collaborate will lose billions of dollars in federal funds that they had previously dispensed, channeling taxpayer money to serve the poor, recent immigrants, and others eligible for federal poverty aid. Groups such as Catholic Charities, some bishops’ migration offices, and others will see their budgets slashed. They will have to scale back their services, as the needy whom they had served get their needs met somewhere else -- by church groups which decide to play Judas, or outright secular agencies. The Christian groups that had relied on federal money to carry out their missions will have to look to their own church members for more donations, or their impact and clout will diminish.
If the Church is serious about being the Church of Jesus Christ and not some glorified social concerns agency, the bishops will immediately commence the process of weaning themselves from federal teats.  I suppose that means that Archbishop Lori would have to recant his recent request for a federal grant to bring illegal immigrants to the St Vincent Villa in Timonium.  What are the chances of that happening?  It may happen sooner than our bishops think - thanks be to God!


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoeo; bhohomosexualagenda; homosexualagenda; usccb
Consider the words of Benedict XVI's Apostolic Letter issued "Motu Proprio" Intima Ecclesiae natura on the Service of Charity (11 November 2012):

Art. 10. - § 1. It is the responsibility of the Bishop to supervise the ecclesiastical goods of the charitable agencies subject to his authority.

(snip)

§ 3. In particular, the diocesan Bishop is to ensure that charitable agencies dependent upon him do not receive financial support from groups or institutions that pursue ends contrary to Church’s teaching. Similarly, lest scandal be given to the faithful, the diocesan Bishop is to ensure that these charitable agencies do not accept contributions for initiatives whose ends, or the means used to pursue them, are not in conformity with the Church’s teaching.

With the support for homosexual "marriage" and unrestricted abortion (as well as pervasive socialism), I cannot fathom how the Federal Government cannot be seen as pursuing ends contrary to Church’s teaching.

1 posted on 07/23/2014 2:11:43 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Yes, agree that Catholic entities shouldn’t take Federal money, although the gov’t is still wrong to tie these anti-religious strings to its largesse. However, there are some other issues, like federal scholarships for students at religious schools, that seem legitimate to worry about how the anti-Christian Feds might use such to target such schools.


2 posted on 07/23/2014 2:24:08 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
However, there are some other issues, like federal scholarships for students at religious schools, that seem legitimate to worry about how the anti-Christian Feds might use such to target such schools.

That is probably why schools like Christendom and Hillsdale don't do anything with federal student aid: e.g., they don't accept Pell grants nor do they cooperate with guaranteed student loans.

3 posted on 07/23/2014 2:27:16 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Look on the bright side. If Obama’s order had regarded non-discrimination of illegal aliens, the Catholic and most other churches would be 4-square 100% enthusiastically behind it.


4 posted on 07/23/2014 2:34:38 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Look on the bright side. If Obama’s order had regarded non-discrimination of illegal aliens, the Catholic and most other churches would be 4-square 100% enthusiastically behind it.

No doubt.

5 posted on 07/23/2014 2:41:33 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
The article shows the church has been promoting Lawlessness (and being part of the problem). Every country must have it's borders and protect it from it's enemies. Even the scriptures acknowledge this. But to promote borderlessness is to promote lawlessness.

1) The borders must be sealed immediately with troops (yes, we have plenty enough).

2) The laws that promote lawlesness to allow this travesty must be fixed. This includes the law that lets anchor babies occur with non-american parents.

3) Use Tent Cities for the children asking them where they came from and whether they want to go home for a week. Airplane those who want to go home back to their home countries. The rest find relatives and send them there. The rest process (Catholic Charties etc.).

4) Reopen the border.

Anything less is lawlessness. The tide must be stemmed before it floods everything.

6 posted on 07/23/2014 3:30:36 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: markomalley
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Yes that would be the next objective. It would seem it is timely for churches to start budgeting as if they did not have tax-exempt status, so they are not caught out when it happens. I’m quite sure it will a hot issue in 10-12 years time.


Yep ... and some day coming to all IRS 501-C3 tax-exempt churches in America.

Don't blame me ... I'm just the messenger.

Questions ?

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Muster up the courage to do the free IRS download of "Pamplet P1828" which specifies the legal details of your tax-exempt church's sertitude to it's U.S. Government Masters.

Heck, I'll even do you the favor of providing the internet link:

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7 posted on 07/23/2014 3:57:50 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: markomalley

most “church’s” have lost any and all moral clarity.
Not worth a tinkers damn.


8 posted on 07/23/2014 4:02:55 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: markomalley

§ 3. In particular, the diocesan Bishop is to ensure that charitable agencies dependent upon him do not receive financial support from groups or institutions that pursue ends contrary to Church’s teaching.

________________________

I have thought for some time now that the Church must divorce itself from governmental mammon. I have already changed my language to reflect my position against the enforced acceptance of sexual sin by our government with regard to marriage. I now refer only to the “Sacrament of Matrimony” and use the term, “matrimonial wedding.”


9 posted on 07/23/2014 5:32:40 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: markomalley

While it would be good for the Church to ween itself off government support there is a bigger issue. Over the years, as more and more government policies have come in conflict with Church teaching, the hierarchy has always sought exemptions for Church institutions. But this leaves the lay faithful high and dry. The bishops have a responsibility to protect all the members of the flock, not just those on the Church payroll. It is time for the bishops to stand up and rally all the faithful and say “no” state mandated attacks on religion and morality (and common sense).


10 posted on 07/23/2014 5:52:38 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: SumProVita

I started to use sacramental marriage. Interesting.


11 posted on 07/23/2014 5:54:37 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Joe Boucher
Tax exempt status for Churches is the root of the moral decline and the solution is obvious: If you can't support yourself without being on the public dole, you need to downsize your operations to live within your means.

Tax-exemption is the muzzle the State uses to coerce Churches into silence. The Catholic Church in America, in particular, has fallen prey to this trap. Ditch the muzzle and preach the Truth and trust the Lord. Bishops unwilling to do this have only themselves to blame for the result. Their sympathy credit has run out.

12 posted on 07/23/2014 9:08:18 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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their excuse is they need the money to do the good works needed for the poor.
Course the Catholic church is RICH.


13 posted on 07/23/2014 9:43:44 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: markomalley
Catholics have no room to complain. 56% voted for bammy in 2008 and 50% in 2012.

Look at the northeast.....majority catholic and they have voted for liberal sinators and congresscritters.

14 posted on 07/23/2014 5:06:13 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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