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1 posted on 07/17/2014 6:46:58 PM PDT by walkinginthedesert
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the church is so lost...in apostasy..most of it.


2 posted on 07/17/2014 6:49:42 PM PDT by felixandbowinkle
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To: walkinginthedesert

What is 81% of irrelevancy?


3 posted on 07/17/2014 6:50:23 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: walkinginthedesert

Over the last 10 years I have seem hordes of Anglicans/Episcopalians, both men and women, leave their churches and join Catholic and Orthodox Churches.


4 posted on 07/17/2014 6:53:01 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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They have abandoned apostolic teaching.

Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity. 8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

5 posted on 07/17/2014 6:53:06 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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I guess this means that there will soon be lesbian bishops in the Anglican Church.

Very sad.


8 posted on 07/17/2014 7:03:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Sorry. Whole thing is off.

Not one priest can be found in all the New Testament. Other than the Lord Jesus Himself.

It is a Jewish practice that ended when our High Priest came in the flesh and made all believers priests.....

Flame away.....


11 posted on 07/17/2014 7:13:25 PM PDT by Arlis
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I have no dog in this fight since I have no ties to this denomination, or its religious traditions. God’s Word should trump any religious tradition, no matter how tightly people cling to it. I know in my own life I have had to deal with some personal bias when it comes to females preaching, but I would gladly take a Spirit-filled woman called by God in a pulpit any day over some of what commonly appears there. It should not be what I want though, but what God wants. Whether male or female, if they are not called by God or anointed for the ministry, they should not be there. God’s got too many salesmen and counselors trying to be preachers, and too many folks that were called to preach running in the opposite direction.

This one passage lays the foundation for understanding the role of women in the Body of Christ. Note especially the 28th verse.

Galatians 3:24-29 (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The Body of Christ has many members, and if Believers are being led by the Spirit, God places each member into the body in their proper place for the edification of the Body. Our placement should not be by our choice, or religion’s choice, but according to God’s Divine Plan and His guidance - Jesus is the Head, and ONLY HEAD of the Body. (Romans 12, 1 Corinthians 12)

Note how often women played a role in ministry in the Bible:

The woman at the well acted as an evangelist at Sychar, bringing her whole village to Jesus. (John 4)

Women were the first to spread the Good News of Jesus’ resurrection. (Matthew 28:1-10, Luke 24:9-11, John 20:16-18)

The promise of a Spiritual outpouring was for both sons and daughters, servants and handmaids. (Acts 2:14-21, Joel 2:28-31)

Philip the evangelist had four daughters who prophesied - which edifies the Church see 1 Cor 14:3-4. (Acts 21:8-9)

In Romans, Paul lists several women who had big roles in the Church:
Phoebe, Romans 16:1 - which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea.
Priscilla, Romans 16:3-4 (KJV) - my helper in Christ Jesus and had a church in their house with her husband Aquila. She and her husband mentored Apollos in Acts 18.
Paul names several women among saints and brethren - Mary, Julia (Romans 16:6-16)

Paul writes that Euodia and Syntyche are his genuine yokefellow, who have toiled along with me in the spreading of the Gospel. (Philippians 4:2-3)

Paul writes about women who publicly pray and prophesy. (1 Corinthians 11:5)

Weigh the two prohibitions against women in ministry (1 Corinthians 14, 1 Timothy 2:11-15), against the Spirit and Truth found throughout Paul’s writing TO the Church - Romans through Thessalonians. There should be no contradiction. Either we are all ONE in Christ, or we are not.

Even in the Old Testament there were women involved in ministry - Miriam Exodus 15:20, Deborah Judges 4:4, Huldah the prophetess 2 Kings 22:14 & 2 Chronicles 34:22, Noadiah the prophetess Nehemiah 6:14, not to mention the important roles played by Ruth, Esther, the prophesies of Elizabeth and Mary in Luke 1 and Anna in the Temple in Luke 2.

If God can preach through a donkey, I think He can find a place for an anointed woman of God.


39 posted on 07/18/2014 12:16:14 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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