I read your responses before and am not persuaded that the OSAS proof texts are able to negate the other Scriptures. OSAS, as it is usually taught, is derived from John Calvin. You are not saved by believing you are saved. You are not saved by believing in Calvinism. Believe and obey the LORD Jesus Christ completely, entirely, until he comes again. He has warned us so many times in the Scriptures. Even blessed Paul himself warned. Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
The Greek word Adokimos, that Paul uses to speak of himself if he does not persevere, indicates the lost reprobate believer who turned away from the faith which was once delivered to the saints. For example, They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Check the other usage in the Scripture for yourself. OSAS will always argue that such were never really saved to being with; well, that would apply to you as well and you could not be certain until you reached the end of your race; so I don't think that argument holds up to the other Scriptures; reread the parable of the Sower; many believed but did not persevere. You are not saved by believing you are saved. Believe in the LORD Jesus Christ, now and forever, and you shall be saved. To believe is to obey. Read all the warnings to us from the LORD himself in Revelation. He is not telling us to believe in OSAS, but to watch (ourselves), repent, and obey him (there is that free will again).
The things which John wrote concerning Jesus are true. Believe them, cling to them, and endure until the end.
The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon Strong's Number: 96 Original Word Word Origin ÅAdmivn from (1) (as a negative particle) and (1384) Transliterated Word TDNT Entry Adokimos 2:255,181 Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech ad-ok'-ee-mos Adjective Definition not standing the test, not approved properly used of metals and coins that which does not prove itself such as it ought unfit for, unproved, spurious, reprobate King James Word Usage - Total: 8 reprobate 6, castaway 1, rejected 1
You gave me your opinion that I was wrong, posted a bunch of what I suppose is Scripture, but since there were no references nobody unfamiliar with Scripture would know that, and and considered it what?
That you somehow made a point?
OK, so you don’t think all those verses support the security of the believer.
Then perhaps you could enlighten us as to why *sealed* doesn’t really mean *sealed* and why *guarantee* doesn’t really mean *guarantee*.
Then we could get into the righteousness of Christ being imputed, or credited to the account of the believer after he puts his faith in Christ, and how that righteousness becomes the believers in the sight of God and how the righteous requirements of the Law are fulfilled in the believer that way so the believer is considered by God to have fulfilled the Law. Then even if we are judged by our *works* we pass muster because God sees Jesus works of righteousness as ours, credited to our account.
Oh really? Not according to the Holy Spirit inspired words from scripture.
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Has, not will or may but has everlasting life
Now, who is going to take that everlasting life away? God says no one can.
Romans 8:38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Again I ask, who will take that everlasting life away when God says “no created thing” can take it away?
>>They profess that they know God<<
Mormons, Muslims and many others profess to know God. That doesn’t mean they believe in Jesus shed blood as their only atonement for sins and turned their lives over to Him. As James says it is their deeds by which we can ascertain whether they have accepted Jesus as their savior. Even the demons “know” God.
>>and you could not be certain until you reached the end of your race;<<
Once again you contradict what scripture teaches.
Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
It’s by God’s grace alone that we are saved. Not by what we do.
Rom. 11:6, "But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace."
Paul rebukes Peter for applying rules for salvation.
Gal. 2:16, "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified."
Gal. 2:21, I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.
Phil. 3:9, "and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith."
Anything that gives man credit for attaining salvation is contrary to scripture.
OSAS is NOT of Calvin. We Reformed folk don’t put any stick in it.
Just thought you’d like to know.
OSAS is NOT of Calvin. We Reformed folk don’t put any stick in it.
Just thought you’d like to know.