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To: metmom

I’ve already been through this list, although admittedly not directly with you (another poster, but I did ping you when I mentioned you posted this list before. This was about a month ago now)

The Assemblies of God believe one can loose one’s salvation (they reject “Eternal Security” in other words) while the Presbyterians do not believe one can loose one’s salvation. It’s all right there in the links you provided. And clearly this too has a direct impact on one’s salvation.

Or perhaps I should repeat my question here: Like I asked about free will, do you not believe the issue of “eternal security” has an impact on one’s salvation?


102 posted on 07/17/2014 8:23:36 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven
The Assemblies of God believe one can loose one’s salvation

IIRC they also believe in baptismal regeneration.

104 posted on 07/17/2014 8:26:24 AM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: FourtySeven; metmom

...”The Assemblies of God ‘believe’ one can loose one’s salvation”....

Key word is ‘Believe’......The sanctity ‘of the believer’ comes to mind.

If one does NOT ‘believe’ in the finished and all sufficient work of Jesus Christ this leaves one easily to believe they can loose what they don’t have in the first place.

Either His work is ‘enough’ and we are ‘complete’ in Him....as is written...and as HE said. Or by denying the security He gives one is simply riding a fence of indecision.....which is rejecting Him.


110 posted on 07/17/2014 8:48:47 AM PDT by caww
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To: FourtySeven; metmom

>> “The Assemblies of God believe one can loose one’s salvation (they reject “Eternal Security” in other words) while the Presbyterians do not believe one can loose one’s salvation” <<

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The AOG at least read their Bibles occasionally. The Presbys don’t even know where they left their Bibles, but they’re sure that they do have one.

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114 posted on 07/17/2014 9:02:44 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: FourtySeven
Like I asked about free will, do you not believe the issue of “eternal security” has an impact on one’s salvation?

That one needs some time to think through how to best respond to it. Let me mull that one over some.

The idea of eternal security is a matter of debate amongst Christians. It hasn't been settled in 2,000 years and I doubt that we'll settle it now, but I'll give you my take on it after thinking it through some more.

123 posted on 07/17/2014 9:34:37 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: FourtySeven
The Assemblies of God believe one can loose one’s salvation (they reject “Eternal Security” in other words) while the Presbyterians do not believe one can loose one’s salvation. It’s all right there in the links you provided. And clearly this too has a direct impact on one’s salvation.

Their statement is this....God does not let anyone go easily. (See Romans 10:21 where Paul was speaking of Israel, but the principle applies.) But a believer can be lost if he disregards the continuing checks of the Holy Spirit a nd reaches the point where he rejects Jesus as his Saviour.

Which is not LOSING one's salvation through works, but rather actively choosing to reject it as an act of that same will that they used to accept it.

There is debate amongst Christians about whether someone can CHOOSE to REJECT the gift of salvation once they have it, but then it's really a matter of whether they ever were really saved to begin with.

139 posted on 07/17/2014 11:17:17 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: FourtySeven
The Assemblies of God believe one can loose one’s salvation (they reject “Eternal Security” in other words) while the Presbyterians do not believe one can loose one’s salvation.

While Rome says you can't know whether you are 'saved' or not.

208 posted on 07/18/2014 4:57:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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