Posted on 07/11/2014 6:56:52 AM PDT by Gamecock
I share that because in my third year, I’d already reached a point in my understanding of how the scriptures fit together, that I didn’t need to ask.
We know Christ die for our sins.. but who wanted his death and why?..answers that to reveal the truth of being a protestant to a central religious authority claiming all power
I don’t know who Phil is.
I know, instead, who Jesus Christ is!
That advice alone would save many a soul from false religion
“Because of Christ’s gifts to the Church through the centuries, we have the privilege of standing on the shoulders of giants”
Thank you for recognizing the contributions of Catholic scholars to the Catholic Church. I knew you would finally post something I agree with.
This is a great post, thank you! And a good discussion as well. I am reminded of the statement by Francis Schaffer about the Church being below the line of despair. Indeed we all see through a glass darkly at this point. Hopefully, we can learn from each other for profit as we seek to follow our Lord and confront a lost world.
Pretty funny to say this view won’t lead to “me and my Bible in the woods. “. How many Christian non-Catholic denominations are there?? It has Led to exactly that.
Depends on the situation.
For instance, the specifics of the Incarnation are not spelled out in exacting detail. However, Creation is rather explicit.
Same with the Real Presence. Pretty clear (the anti real presence position is based on reason, just like the anti Creation position).
Music at service? Well, no that isn’t spelled out. Various liturgical arrangements? Same thing. Dietary restrictions? Pretty far open.
My point is that when people starting saying “The ECF’s said X!” I can find a situation where an orthodox church father often said Y.
There is conformity on many issues that runs right through both. For instance, people who claim that the Bible/ECF’s support sexual sin are not reading either.
My bride is Catholic.
The range in belief between Catholic diocese’s is amazing. To the point if you didn’t see the name on the door (or hidden away in some cases) you wouldn’t know the church is in communion with the one across the river.
From saying Jesus didn’t “Know he was God till the Resurrection” (preached the Sunday after Christmas no less) to full on smells and bells Latin mass.
The former is not the same religion as the later. Yet they both claim to be in communion with each other.
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Depends on the situation.>>>>>
I agree.
**The range in belief between Catholic diocese’s is amazing.**
Thanks for saying this. I have been making that assertion for years. And if you want a real inconsistent belief go to a 3rd world country and compare it to suburban American Catholicism.
How many Catholic denominations are there?
Hundreds?
If it agrees with scripture and what the apostles taught we take it but if it disagrees with scripture or the apostles didn’t teach it then we discard it completely.
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8-9
Please show where the apostles taught the assumption of Mary or veneration of her.
“Pretty funny to say this view won’t lead to “me and my Bible in the woods. “. How many Christian non-Catholic denominations are there?? It has Led to exactly that.”
A tiny sliver of the number of Romans who reject the teaching of Rome... and live by their own theology.
And every one of them are supposed to be following the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The parishes that are not should be called on the carpet, told to repent, or become protestant, where they allow such nonsense. You will still not see in any Catholic Church.
1. Women clergy.
2. Openly homosexual men preaching the word of God.
3. Abortion allowed.
4. Homosexual “marriages” performed.
These things are allowed all over the world of protestantism, why? Because there is no control. No one in charge. Every man for himself.
Once again you are deeply mistaken.
Sola scripture does NOT mean:
Don’t go to church.
Ignore pastors.
Don’t touch a Bible commentary.
Don’t look at the underlying Greek or Hebrew.
Be a Solo Christian.
It does mean that each of us, as individuals, will stand before God for judgment, either for our rejecting Him, or to reveal the quality of work we did under Him. It means we each have an individual responsibility to seek God, and what better guide that the Word He breathed out? It means commentaries and theologians and pastors and traditions are evaluated against the gold standard of God’s Word - God’s written revelation to man.
Scripture rules tradition. Tradition does not rule Scripture. If someone does not want commoners to read the Word in their common tongue, it speaks volumes about their intent. And if someone doesn’t WANT to compare doctrines taught to the Word of God, it speaks volumes about the individual!
Please tell me where I am wrong. Want me to give you a listing of protestant churches that allow the things I mentioned above. I can certainly do it.
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