Posted on 07/03/2014 6:01:01 AM PDT by marshmallow
Madison, Wis., Jul 2, 2014 / 03:50 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The Diocese of Madison, Wis. explained its response to same-sex couples who present children for baptism, welcoming sincere baptism requests but also warning of “speculative” or “scurrilous” news reports on the subject.
In a June 27 statement, the diocese reproduced vicar general Monsignor James Bartylla's May 10 confidential e-mail to priests, which noted that each request for baptism for a child being raised by a same-sex couple “must be evaluated individually.”
Priests who receive such requests should contact him to consult and coordinate, Msgr. Bartylla said.
“As you know, there a plethora of difficulties, challenges, and considerations associated with these unnatural unions (including scandal) linked with the baptism of a child, and such considerations touch upon theology, canon law, pastoral approach, liturgical adaptation, and sacramental recording,” the monsignor added.
That confidential e-mail drew the attention of the Wisconsin State Journal and attracted other national news, with the Wisconsin paper describing it as a “change in process.”
Religion News Service reporter David Gibson wrote about the Madison diocese's approach June 26, depicting it as a possible new cultural “battleground” and claiming that there is a “trend to curb baptisms.” He cited critics of Madison Bishop Robert Morlino who suspected the policy would curb baptisms he considers “problematic.”
In response to media coverage, the Madison diocese reproduced two statements its communications director Brent King sent to the Wisconsin newspaper.
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I heard that homosexuality is about the actions of consenting adults in private.
When did the child consent to being brought into an “alternative lifestyle” home?
The baby doesn’t get to choose who raises him/her.
Wait for it - Baptism equality
This raises a basic problem.
Does the Catholic church permit the baptism of non-Catholic infants?
Apparently only if there is a “well founded hope” that the child will be raised as a Catholic, or if it is in danger of death before maturity.
It also requires the agreement of a lawful, single parent, so though that parent is in an unrecognized marriage, the other partner is of no moment. However, the church will likely not acknowledge their presence as a parent.
Infants become Catholic at the moment of their baptism.
Also, I don’t think a baby in a home where lesbians continue the farce that is their “marriage” can be compared with even a baby in the home of a single parent.
Since the Catholic Church DOES NOT CONDONE adoption by homosexuals, I don’t how any priest could baptise a kid being raised by two dykes or homos. They certainly are not living a Catholic life and bringing up the child in the Catholic faith. And that is asked of them at baptism. Only a whacky, liberal priest that snubs his nose at Canon Law will allow something like this.
can a person who is ineligible to receive communion in a catholic church present a child for baptism?
Every child has ONE mother and ONE father.
A homosexual presenting a child is no different than an unwed mother presenting a child alone. (if allowed)
The Catholic Church supposedly doesn’t condone abortion either.
And we have pro-abort politicians receiving communion.
Anything is possible.
That is up to their local bishops. You knew that, right?
Not that I support the “rapture” eschatological theory per se, (as in Jesus “returning” in secret to rapture his sheep before the Tribulation) but if it were true, that scenario sounds like what would happen.
The lesbians would be “left behind” while a (presumably) innocent child would be raptured to be with Jesus.
So if anything that series might tick off the GLBT’s. Which is fine by me.
The active homosexual's lifestyle is incompatible with parenting because he is continuing to sin.
The unmarried mother is not necessarily continuing to sin; she just isn't accompanied by the child's father.
It seems to be a basic flaw in the structure and hierarchy of the church (and not helped by a weak pope) that certain bishops can neglect their responsibilities so egregiously, and for such an extended period.
I don't watch HBO or any contemporary programming but it's hilarious if that's what happened in the show.
Yes, I knew that Salvation. The point is that if the bishops can change canon law to fit their views on allowing pro-abort politicians to receive communion, why not those who can receive baptism?
Under the proper conditions it would be correct. But, yes, something is wrong when bishops are allowed to go against canon law. For me, it’s the tip of the iceberg.
But, again, some of these same politicians received communion at the Papal Installation, so......
The only “pro-abort” Catholics that have excommunicated themselves and should never present themselves for communion are the politicians who publicly advocate abortion on demand and homosexual “marriage” and through their voting advocate the same things and try to make it law. These are the Pelosis of the world and really any other democrat politician.
They know they are doing wrong and stick their midle finger up to the church. People that call themselves Catholics, but have an abortion or vote for a pro-abortion candidate can go to confession and say they were wrong, be absolved of their sins and move on with their life.
No, they can't "say they were wrong" and be absolved without sincerely meaning it and recognizing the grave, sinful nature of it. Just like any sin it won't be forgiven if the confession is offered insincerely. Subsequent communion would then be an additional sin.
You know what I was talking about it. Of course they have to sincerely repent of their sin.
OK, sorry.
What does that have to do with the issue steve86 brought up: that of bishops who allow them to receive?
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