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Bishop Paprocki: I Direct the Eucharist be Placed in the Center of the Sanctuary
Courageous Priest ^ | June 24, 2014

Posted on 06/24/2014 10:31:08 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 06/24/2014 10:31:08 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 06/24/2014 10:31:40 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Why isn’t Pope Francis saying this? More important to get to the next joint Catholic-Muslim prayer session on time?


3 posted on 06/24/2014 10:35:29 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: NYer
Original of the painting is better:

Ingres. He painted this several times, with different saints.

4 posted on 06/24/2014 10:56:12 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: NYer

In building our new church the words “The tabernacle will be in the center of the sanctuary!” were the first words out of our priest’s mouth!


5 posted on 06/24/2014 11:00:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The problem in many parishes is vandalism and theft. The exposed Monstrance is quite expensive and a prime target.


6 posted on 06/24/2014 11:03:43 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone

Our tabernacle is in the center of the altar space, but it’s locked and I’m willing to believe it’s bolted down. We also have an adoration chapel. It’s not easy to find if you don’t know where to look. That’s where we have the monstrance. We also are supposed to have someone there 24/7. I visit our Lord both places.


7 posted on 06/24/2014 11:12:35 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Don Corleone

Well... they could lock the doors until the next Mass, couldn’t they?


8 posted on 06/24/2014 11:22:52 AM PDT by TheRobb7 ("Patriots don't negotiate the terms of our enslavement"--JimRob)
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To: AnAmericanMother

It’s often an interesting exercise to step into a strange church and play the game of “where do I genuflect?” I remember visiting one particularly awful modernistic church that looked more like the lobby of some alpine hotel than a place of worship. The tabernacle had been consigned to some “meditation room” off to the side.


9 posted on 06/24/2014 11:24:49 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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Apparently the new cool place to play "Hide the Tabernacle" is BEHIND the altar! It's in the center of the sanctuary and behind the altar, technically speaking, but it's invisible.

Been in a couple of churches here where I had to ask -

10 posted on 06/24/2014 11:30:04 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Salvation

As it should be and has been for centuries until Vatican II played fast and loose with that concept.

No tabernacle in the sanctuary gives the feeling that the Most Important Person for Whom the building was erected is not present.


11 posted on 06/24/2014 11:48:53 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: steve86

Quit your bitchin’. Acknowledge where good is being done, and promote it.

Let’s not forget the principle of subsidarity, where the local ordinary handles these types of matters in his diocese.

He can refer to the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments if he needs further general guidance.


12 posted on 06/24/2014 11:55:26 AM PDT by SpirituTuo
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TheRobb, I think you're missing the very reason for this directive, namely:

The Reservation and Adoration of the Holy Eucharist.

This does not pertain to the Mass. This pertains to the availability of the Christ's Eucharistic Body for private meditation and adoration by the Catholic Faithful outside of Mass.

13 posted on 06/24/2014 1:13:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Lord, save Your people and bless Your inheritance; give victory to the faithful over their adversary)
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Would this be an option for private meditation outside of Mass?
14 posted on 06/24/2014 1:44:24 PM PDT by TheRobb7 ("Patriots don't negotiate the terms of our enslavement"--JimRob)
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To: SpirituTuo
Let’s not forget the principle of subsidarity

In these kinds of discussions, often used by as an excuse for poor leadership by papal apologists.

Why even have a pope if the issues closest to the faithful and most important to them are decided parish by parish? That's what protestants do. The church needs uniformity in liturgy and form (within a rite), as had been the case for centuries. The only way you ensure this is top down.

15 posted on 06/24/2014 4:27:40 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Mercat

I hope your parish has someone in the Adoration Chapel 24/7.


16 posted on 06/24/2014 5:04:23 PM PDT by ardara
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To: COBOL2Java

I’ve been to one of those too, and I don’t like it.


17 posted on 06/24/2014 5:07:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Because a Bishop is the head of a diocese, not just one parish. The Bishop is sovereign in his diocese, and is able to exercise prudential judgement.

The Pope is sovereign in the diocese of Rome, and Vatican City. The Church is the laity, in conjunction with Bishops, supporting the Pope. The Bishops, in union with the Pope, provide authoritative teaching, guidance, and direction to their dioceses.

Thus, there may be an issue in one diocese, but not another, and is best handled by the local ordinary.

So, no, this isn’t a leadership issue, nor an apologetic for the Pope. Rather, it is the explanation of how leadership is exercised at the appropriate level of organization.


18 posted on 06/24/2014 5:30:17 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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Since the mid-60s, seems to be a failed model.


19 posted on 06/24/2014 5:40:23 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Mercat
Our tabernacle is in the center of the altar space, but it’s locked and I’m willing to believe it’s bolted down. We also have an adoration chapel. It’s not easy to find if you don’t know where to look. That’s where we have the monstrance. We also are supposed to have someone there 24/7. I visit our Lord both places.

God is omnipresent. He's not just stored in a little container.
20 posted on 06/24/2014 6:19:06 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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