Posted on 05/30/2014 10:23:23 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
The president of the Evangelical Theological Society, an association of 4,300 Protestant theologians, resigned this month because he has joined the Roman Catholic Church.
The May 5 announcement by Francis J. Beckwith, a tenured associate professor at Baptist-affiliated Baylor University in Waco, Tex., has left colleagues gasping for breath and commentators grasping for analogies.
One blogger likened it to Hulk Hogan's defection from the World Wrestling Federation to the rival World Championship Wrestling league.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Your last sentence is bang on, and if Catholics truly read and only went with what the Bible teaches they wouldn’t be Catholic.
You can point out it all day long and they’ll just dig in deeper.
For me, when Jesus died on the cross for me, it was enough, it was the perfect gift, and nothing else is needed to earn my way. I don’t pray to any dead people, I pray to Jesus himself. I don’t need any other intercessor, for Christ himself is my intercessor, and he’s the only one.
I realized a long time ago, that anything you add to the finished work of Christ on the cross is what you’re REALLY trusting for your salvation.
So if it’s baptism, you’re trusting the baptism to save you because Jesus won’t or can’t without it.
Same with communion, confession, penance, saying the rosary, confirmation, *corporeal works of mercy*, last rites, whatever.
Actually, the Holy Spirit also interceded for us according to the will of God. Romans 8:26- 27. So we have both on our side.
It doesn’t get any better than that. Who needs dead people praying when Jesus and the Holy Spirit themselves are praying for us?
Perhaps not in word, but always in deed.
Our source of identity is being in Christ, not by who our *enemies* are, as the Catholic church bases its identity on.
Catholic identity had been well established long before protestants ever came on the scene. Not our fault protestants suffer from an inferiority complex.
And it's that elitist, snotty attitude of *we're right and y;all are going to hell because you're not Catholics* that puts the dividing wall up.
There's nothing elitist or snotty about having Truth given to us by God. It's just the way it is. The wall is a protestant invention. Put up the day protestants decided to declare non serviam as their organizing principle. Substituing their own man-made judgment for the Truth of the Roman Catholic Church. It's unfortunate. Perhaps if protestants weren't so filled with self-deifying pride and practiced some humility we might get somewhere. We can always pray.
It's Catholicism that tells the world that they have to convert or go to hell.
Unlike protestants who rebaptize Catholics or dare to put God in a man-made box by limiting His mercy in proclaiming the invicibly ignorant are going to Hell. Or the Calvinists amongst us who believe God created beings specifically for the purpose of eternal damnation. Yeah. Ok.
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit..." --Jesus
“baptism now saves you.” —St. Paul
... St. Peter
That bastardized book protestants call scripture? I think not. That's not scripture. Nothing but man made garbage. Who gave protestants the right to throw out books of the Bible anyway? Nobody. No authority whatsoever. Only this perverted notion of self as authority.
In your dreams. Catholics wish that were the case. It makes them feel all warm and fuzzy to think that everyone is secretly jealous over them and guilt ridden for leaving the alleged *One True Church*.
Of course they are. A willful disregard for the fullness of Truth that the Holy Roman Catholic Church provides will do that to people. That's why protestants obsess about the Church. It's not so much what they stand for but what they stand against that makes up the identity of a protestant.
Faith alone and Christ alone because it's in Scripture, not because it's in opposition to Catholicism.
Prove it. Show me in scripture where it says we're saved by Faith alone.
However, thanks for the tacit admission that Catholicism teaches that salvation is not through faith alone and not through Christ alone; that what Jesus did on the cross is not good enough to save anyone.
Now whose projecting?
Amen!
The reason for baptism is a public confirmation of your faith in Christ. It’s something a person decides to do to show obedience to God’s will.
I never did see any babies baptized in the Bible either.
I just bought a new house. Before I moved stuff in, I prayed and asked Jesus to bless this house and everyone in it and to put his hand of protection over it.
I love how it’s so simple and I can call on him anytime.
Save that nonsense for people who become Muslim, or Buddhist, or even for those "Presbyterians" who worship some entity they call "Sophia". Orthodox Catholics profess faith in Jesus Christ every bit as much as you do.
But, BTW, your whole "it never took" line of argument kind of drops "assurance of salvation" on its head. How can any Proddie really know that his "assured salvation" really "took"? Because he feels it really strongly? Maybe that's where the Mormons got their "burning in the bosom" idea?
Digging up stuff from 7 years ago. Well running dry?
Well said. Instead of the circular firing squads, let us set our sights on the millions who need to hear of the saving love of God in Christ Jesus.
Francis, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.
I put “Francis Beckwith” in the search engine on FR and came up with one article and it was not about him converting.
The date of the article was 2007. The date that I posted it was last night, and the year is 2014. There is a difference.
Sadly, it’s a story of someone who either hasn’t studied the Word of God, or who doesn’t believe the Word of God.
“FYI, Baptists existed over 300 years before Rome decided to get into the Church Business. “
source please
According to the article, it is droves. My sister and daughter are among them, and very few people are more devoted than they are to Jesus. On the other hand, my sister has a son who became Catholic, and he, too, is just as devoted to Jesus. We love and support each other as followers of Christ; our prayers are for our relatives who are not believers.
Well I could have found an article about one of the Catholics listed below. Not too hard to find Catholic converts.
http://www.pinterest.com/shethomist/famous-catholic-converts/
Very well stated.
May Christ increase, and denominations decrease.
Let us “preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles.”
Let us boast not about our denominational affiliation, but “in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.”
A little dated, but a great story of returning to the Catholic Church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmczwR_ZYw4
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