Posted on 05/28/2014 5:50:04 AM PDT by WVKayaker
Can Roman Catholics be saved? Yes they can but not if they adhere to Roman Catholic theology. Like anyone else, salvation is found only through faith in Christ alone. ...
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“Being saved hinges on one thing and one thing only... profession of faith in Jesus Christ and exactly what He taught.”
If that be the case, then articles dealing with whether or not Catholics can be saved are unnecessary, divisive, and really, unChristian.
You should have the courage of conviction in your Faith and not worry about what some saint, bishop, priest, or pope or Catholic theologian thinks or says about your route to salvation, just as we Catholics should not really care what you think about our route to salvation.
If you ask Catholics if they are “saved”, the correct (for a Catholic) answer is “I don’t know.” That is because salvation is ultimately God’s decision, and one that is made at the time of Judgement. So, that is why I believe discussions like these are truly, truly idiotic, since NOBODY KNOWS GOD’S MIND.
If we spent more time loving those who love God and praying for those who don’t, we would be much better off.
And I am personally fine if you don’t want to pray the Rosary, or ask Saint Luke the Physician to pray for the health of a loved one or friend: all our prayers go to God, anyway.
“And the Lord looked at Peter and said “You are the Rock upon which I will build my Church.”
Wow, that’s one heck of a misquotation you got there. There is no “you” in that sentence as it was written in the New Testament.
I don’t think Matt Slick would mind if you posted the whole thing, would he?
Well I was just wondering. To my knowledge the Code of 1917 was never translated into English and it was abrogated in 1983,when the Johanno-Pauline Code of 1983 took effect.
Dittoes!
In other words, you have to earn it by your own merits.
Thanks for playing; you're clearly enamored of the same "works righteousness" you condemn.
Yes, if they or anyone does the Romans 10:9,10 thing.
Confess with your mouth Jesus Christ as the Lord, and
believe in their heart that God has raised him from the
dead, thou shall be saved. That’s it!
Anyone at all.
:)
That is why I usually don't get on these threads. It really is like casting pearls before people, but have you ever heard of the Navigators? They are the ones who led me to The Lord. Dawson Trotman, Bill Bright, Chuck Smith and Charles Stanley have had an impact on my walk.
I just heard Steve Ray on Catholic Answers radio the other day. He’s quite a character! I’ll bet a trip to the Holy Land with him would be quite an adventure.
Thank-you Salvation and God Bless.
I would ask them, who do you love? Little ones would generally respond mommy/daddy etc. I would ask them how they showed mommy/daddy they loved them. They do chores, they bring flowers, etc. You get the picture.
As I taught older ones. Same question, how do we show God that we love him?(He does not need our affirmation) If the teachers have been doing their jobs, then by 7th and 8th grade the answers are the Corporal and Spiritual Acts of Mercy. If they have not done their job. It's where I began.
That is your choice.....no one can make you. Nobody can make anybody listen(sort of has been my point).
It does nothing to address who you are really serving with your spirit with this divisiveness and that is what I am asking you to look at if you love the Lord as you say you do. The "Bible" says to stop arguing when people refuse to listen....there is a time to walk away unless the goal is evil.
It has now been pointed out to you the harm this is causing and now the decision is in your hands to make on whether to continue each time a thread comes up. That decision is on your shoulders now. Who do you really serve in this.
Plus also at each Holy Saturday Vigil to Easter/Easter Sunday, Catholics also take care of the “baptism thing” by renewing their baptism promises.
Yes, I have heard of them.
I will go out on a limb here and say that there are some saved Roman Catholics. I have my suspicion that some here on FR are wriiten in the book of life. (Not naming names.) For many here I fear for their eternal souls. I know several IRL who I know are saved.
But if they are saved it is in spite of the RCC, not because of it.
Paul baptised whole families, including children. When we look carefully at the teaching of Scripture, we see that the sign of the covenant was applied to infants prior to Christ, and presumably continued to be applied to them when Jesus changed it to baptism. And when we look closely at the household baptisms described in Acts, there can be little doubt but that infants were commonly baptized in the apostolic church. They were baptized then, and they should be baptized now, on the basis of God’s promise to bless the children of believers. The faith of a parent qualifies a child to be baptized and raised as a disciple of Jesus. He welcomed them into his kingdom, and so should we.
“But if they are saved it is in spite of the RCC, not because of it.”
Yep. Agree, and I’m former RCC myself.
Anyone that does not confess his sins against God and does not convert to God’s Pilgrim Church on Earth is the one causing harm. And the harm is they are putting their immortal soul in jeopardy.
I don’t like all the negativity these kinds of threads generate either and I also don’t believe anyone who posts to them will change their mind.
However I must admit, at least from a Catholic perspective, there is a point and a reason for posting the pro-Catholic ones. (And so, I am forced to say in fairness the pro-Protestant ones). And that is for evangelization of the lurker.
I try to avoid these as much as possible but they are educational for me at times. And also interesting. But they can also be toxic of course.
So there have been times when I’ve thought if begging my fellow Catholics to not post threads like this. But I always return to the possibility of evangelization of some unknown lurker somewhere, maybe something said something I don’t even say, will stick in the mind of someone who is even an atheist, much less a non Catholic.
It’s just something I feel I have to acknowledge, as much as I’d like to see both kinds of these threads just disappear sometimes.
Sometimes though, what God calls one to do is neither fun or pretty. That’s pretty much the only reason I don’t speak against threads like this.
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