Posted on 05/18/2014 10:49:02 AM PDT by wmfights
The acceptance of the erroneous belief in supersessionism not only promoted a change in how we interpret Scripture, but also introduced the ground work for antisemitism from churches empowered by the state.
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We can argue from Scripture how supersessionism is wrong until the "cows come home", but I think one area we don't cover enough is how this error has affected the world politically. Origen not only promoted a flawed way to interpret Scripture he laid the ground work that justified persecuting Jews by Christian institutions.
With “Our Father”, Jesus taught a Hebrew prayer.
Interesting too. Thanks for posting.
I think a lot of Christians don't see the consequences of erroneous beliefs beyond a theological setting, but there are also political and cultural consequences. The justification of antisemitism is just one consequence.
The Lord Jesus Christ Himself warned the "experts" against leading believers astray.
I've said it before, and I say it here: some the biggest stumbling blocks to Christian faith can be found in the opinions of "theologians" who are more concerned about who the nephilim were than the matchless wonder of His atoning sacrifice and victorious resurrection.
Throughout history, the greatest human disasters (Naziism, communism, liberalism, political correctness, and false religions) are brought about when people abdicate their personal responsibility to, if I may paraphrase Christ's admonition, pay close attention, hold everything up to the light of god's word, and judge for themselves what is right.
So, I urge any reader who does not already do so: If you want to know what God really said, read His Word for yourself. Don't let the "experts" do your thinking for you. God wants to personally reveal His will and His glory to each one of us. He wants to "reason" with us. But he expects us to take personal responsibility for our relationship with Him.
From the site:
Michael J. Vlach, Ph.D. is Associate Professor of Theology at the Master’s Seminary in Sun Valley, California. He is also the Founder and President of TheologicalStudies.org, a cutting-edge website devoted to providing quality articles, news, and information related to Christian theology.
Michael has a B.S. in Business Administration from the University of Nebraska and a Master of Divinity degree from The Master’s Seminary in Sun Valley, California. He also has a Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, North Carolina.
should have been titled Origen and the origin of European Christianity’s antisemitism
We can argue from scripture...however, he cannot. It wasn’t around for another 100 years...
Have you worked through the article and subsequent thread The Church and Israel in the New Testament? (The part before it got derailed by quirky preterism.)
The acceptance of the erroneous belief in supersessionism not only promoted a change in how we interpret Scripture, but also introduced the ground work for antisemitism from churches empowered by the state.
I expect we'll be hearing about Luther and the Not-Sees in upcoming episodes.
Now that's just goofy...Where do you suppose Origen got his material to concoct his Hexapla???
Your point is?
"It wasn’t around for another 100 years... "
Now that's just goofy...Where do you suppose Origen got his material to concoct his Hexapla???
Given the dates of Origen's life and the "hundred years" figure, I'm going to hazard a guess that we'll soon hear some theory about Constantine and the Nicene Council.
Michael J. Vlach, Ph.D. is Associate Professor of Theology at the Master’s Seminary in Sun Valley, California. ...Michael has a B.S. in Business Administration from the University of Nebraska and a Master of Divinity degree from The Master’s Seminary in Sun Valley, California. He also has a Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, North Carolina.
Vlach is actually one of the folks that I'm actually inclined to listen too. Unlike a lot of the pop prophecy pundits (say that quick 3 times), the Chuck Misslers and Hal Lindsays of the world, Dr. Vlach shows signs of actually being familiar with and having read people he disagrees with.
When the first temple was destroyed, the remnant of Israel was a mere 85,000 people. These went on to rebuild and restore the nation of Israel. The Israel remnant from the destruction of the second temple was 144,000, and these formed the foundation of the New Covenant, into which the Gentiles were eventually received. Thus, the Church represents the remnant of the true Israel, along with the incorporation of Gentile believers.
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When the first temple was destroyed, the remnant of Israel was a mere 85,000 people.
No idea where that number comes from. Considerably fewer than that were deported to Babylon.
These went on to rebuild and restore the nation of Israel. The Israel remnant from the destruction of the second temple was 144,000, and these formed the foundation of the New Covenant, into which the Gentiles were eventually received. Thus, the Church represents the remnant of the true Israel, along with the incorporation of Gentile believers.
I think your history's a little skewed.
Many deported to Babylon never returned to rebuild.
As for the 144,000: Revelation Chapters 7 and 14 agree - who am I to disagree?
Origen is merely stating the universal faith received from the Apostles. Matthew 21 is the clearest chapter in the Bible concerning this issue:
Matthew 21:19 Jesus curses the fig tree ( a type of national Israel ) for not bearing fruit ( fruit being faith in Jesus )and specifically says “ may no fruit EVER come from you again”
Ever is a long time.
Matthew 21:43 Jesus tells the Pharisees the kingdom will be taken from them ( again national Israel )and given to a nation producing the FRUITS ( faith ) of it.
Which NATION was the kingdom given to? the Greeks? Romans? Chinese? Slavs? No! The nation Jesus had in view was described in 1 Peter 2:9 “ but you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, A HOLY NATION, God’s own people....”
It is a nation of faith, comprised of every ethnicity, one in which there is neither Jew nor Greek, just one in Christ.
this DOES NOT mean individual Hebrews are cursed, as individual Hebrews have come to faith in Jesus all thru the history of the Church, Paul being a great example. but it does mean that national Israel has been cut off as being the Israel of God. The true Israel of God, the nation possessing the kingdom is the Church.
Origen merely read the words of Jesus in Matthew 21 and believed Him!
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