Posted on 05/16/2014 12:34:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Young earth creationist Ken Ham lashed out at televangelist Pat Robertson over his claim earlier this week that someone has to be “deaf, dumb and blind” to believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, accusing Robertson of compromising “the Word of God.”
“Pat Robertson illustrates one of the biggest problems we have today in the church — people like Robertson compromise the Word of God with the pagan ideas of fallible men!,” Ham wrote on his Facebook page. “Pat Robertson is not upholding the Word of God with his ridiculous statements — he is undermining the authority of the Word. And any attack on the WORD is an attack on the person of Jesus Christ, who IS THE WORD!”
Ham, who runs Answers in Genesis, a Christian ministry that takes the Bible’s Genesis account of creation literally, broke down the comments Robertson made on CBN’s “The 700 Club” earlier this week in a point-by-point analysis.
In addition to accusing Roberson of expressing “his utter ignorance of science,” Ham wrote that the televangelist “makes Christianity look silly.”
But Ham took particular exception to Robertson’s claim that there is no way that the Earth could have possibly come to fruition in such a short time span.
“Really Pat Robertson? You mean there is no way God, the infinite Creator, could not have created the universe in six days just six thousand years ago?,” Ham rhetorically asked. “God could have created everything in six seconds if He wanted [to]! And it’s not a matter of what you think anyway — it’s a matter of what God has clearly told us in His infallible WORD!”
As TheBlaze previously reported, Robertson unleashed his critiques on young earth creationists Tuesday, saying that they are mistaken in their views about the age of the planet.
“The truth is, you have to be deaf, dumb and blind to think that this Earth that we live in only has 6,000 years of existence, it just doesn’t, I’m sorry,” Robertson said.
He added, “I think what we’re looking at is that there was a point of time after the Earth was created, after these things were done, after the universe was formed, after the asteroid hit the Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs — after that, there was a point of time that there was a particular human being that God touched — and that was the human that started the race that we are now part of.”
Watch Robertson’s comments below:
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Or God could be recreating the universe every Thursday...no way to prove it one way or the other.
I agree, God is capable of anything. Thank you
You’re welcome. :-)
One can accept the moral and spiritual lessons of the Bible without trying to believe that every single lesson in the Bible is a literal account of an actual event. Furthermore, I have never met anyone who literally believes every single word in the Bible. According to the Bible, the earth is flat and the sun, planets, and stars are stuck on the inside of a shell-like structure called the "firmament", and everything moves around the earth. Human observations tell us that the nature of the earth and its place in the universe are quite different. Which do you believe, the Bible, or the observations?
I do not say that a choice must be made, that either one must believe the physical nature of the universe is as it appears *or* one must believe that every word of the Bible is literal. But those who have been raised in a strict Creationist household do believe that such a choice *must* be made, and too often decide against their faith because their own observations show them a universe that is vastly different than that described in the Bible. However, recognizing that the Bible is mostly allegory, meant to teach us moral and spiritual lessons, gives a sense of freedom by making that choice unnecessary. There is no need to spend time and effort on trying to disbelieve every observation about the nature of the physical universe because it does not match the often contradictory descriptions in the Bible. One is even free to become a scientist and devote one's life to exploring that universe and learning new facts about God's creation the way it really exists.
God isn’t capable of all things. He cannot go against His Word.
1- I always agreed on the two ex-cathedra statements. I simply asserted they’re not the only two.
2- You seem to have no concept of Catholic beliefs regarding Mary.
3- Typical misunderstandings center around trying to deny that Christ was simultaneously True God and True Man. This leads many to pretend that Mary was only Mother of the Human Nature of Christ, which in fact is a denial of Christ’s dual nature.
Of course He can’t, but what if His word was different for different people? Other than what is in the Bible, a book, how do you know He doesn’t?
Well, according to catholic sources, they are the only two instances of the pope speaking ex-cathedra. you're refusal to acknowledge that leads me to question anything else you say.
I completely understand the fabricated, non-biblical position to which catholics have elevated Mary. I have read the catechism of the catholic church and the position regarding mary is idolatry plain and simple.
You might check difference between veneration and worship before proceeding with your fraudulent claims.
You do make quite the case AGAINST individuals making their own interpretations of the Bible.
The notion that the Bible interprets the Bible and therefore leads to inerrant understanding is quite laughable, as you have so clearly illustrated.
Although I agree with you on the age of the earth I do have to take exception to this.
As Christians we KNOW that Adam was a real man. As followers of Christ we only have to look at what our messiah and his followers believed.
In Luke 3 the genealogy of Jesus's stepfather Joseph is chronicled and leads directly back to Adam:
Luk 3:38 the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Jesus affirmed the validity of the Adam and Eve story:
Mat 19:4 And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE,'
And the first disciples, based on the teaching of Jesus, confirmed the existence of Adam and Eve as put forth in scripture.
1Ti_2:13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
1Ti_2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.
So Christians...at least those who believe Scripture, Jesus and the first disciples, should absolutely believe that Adam was a real person.
no where in the Bible are we taught to pray to Mary. again, this is man-made worship of Mary....non biblical.
if you can't see it, I'm sorry for you.
This will be my last post on this topic.
“When it comes to prophecy in the OT, it’s beneficial to do that...”
What about historical passages? Should we use that rule when reading those too?
“Oh come on. In Genesis 1 when God (re)created the earth who was around to count the length of time a day was to the Lord?”
The Lord was there. Is His reckoning not enough? Do we need outside confirmation?
“You either believe him that a day in his timezone is a thousand years or you don’t.”
So, every time the Bible says “a day”, we must read it as a thousand years, or no? Are we allowed to read things in context or is this some absolute substitution cipher we are talking about?
So you don’t ask other people to pray for you or your family?
As for the “Mary is Dead” meme.
What have you to say about Moses and Elija appearing with Christ, in front of Peter and John?
As I said....I’m done with this aspect of the thread.
I’m under no obligation to let your errant assertions rest.
LiveScience: "Speed of Light May Not Be Constant", Physicists Say - Jesse Emspak,
LiveScience Contributor April 27, 2013 07:51am ET
Your 'fundamental constant(s)' are simply measurements observed by men and are subject to ignorance.
According to whose measurement? How do you know that the measurement is sound? Are they perhaps failing to take massive contamination into account?
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